Yes, lets not say and accept that it is not normal, lets take the time and continue a high standard that this list has enjoyed over the last few months. Peter -----Original Message----- From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dj Paddy Sent: September 5, 2005 9:37 PM To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [access-uk] Re: Moderators request once more: Subject naming Hi. i'll say on this point having things explained to you can be a rarity. If you ask why people may take the time to explain it but not always. I agree whole heartedly that it's much nicer and does produce a more effective result when it's explained rather than dictated but often as not it's the exception rather than the rule in my experiences outside the VI lists. Just as a warning for people who may join high traffic tech lists moderators don't always have the time to explain things. I do agree we should make the effort though. As this is not only a piece of netiquette but also a part of common curtisy. Dj Paddy "It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion, It is by the beans of Java that thoughts acquire speed, The hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning, It is by caffeine alone I set my mind in motion." -- Popular Usenet Sig ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Logue" <peterlogue@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 1:48 AM Subject: [access-uk] Re: Moderators request once more: Subject naming >I must say I agree with Ray when he says: > ... many of us do not take kindly to being told 'that's the rules, and do > it > because I say so.' A rational explanation influences me a great deal more > than being spoken to in an officious and mildly offensive way. There > should > be rules of conduct for moderators? (smile) > > Peter > 7 years yahoo Owner/Moderator > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf > Of > Ray's Home > Sent: September 5, 2005 8:35 PM > To: access-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [access-uk] Re: Moderators request once more: Subject naming > > I'd like to add my appreciation for the explanations given, and as Kevin > says, > > "the problem i've found as a list owner and | moderator is a lot of folks > are > simply too bone idol to think about it like > | that. no offense meant to anyone in particular, but it's the truth! ..." > > I can understand the frustration being expressed here, but many of us do > not > take kindly to being told 'that's the rules, and do it because I say so.' > A > rational explanation influences me a great deal more than being spoken to > in > an officious and mildly offensive way. There should be rules of conduct > for > moderators? (smile) > > So, do not get me wrong, I am saying thanks to everyone who has explained > the > rationale behind starting a new subject as against merely using the > original > as a convenient way of getting the group email address into a message. > Ray > > Personal emails: Email me at > mailto:ray-48@xxxxxxxx > > ----- Original Message ----- > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > __________ NOD32 1.1209 (20050905) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** access-uk-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq