Hi Carson, John:
Just reading your E-Mails Re: Pedestrian Pushbuttons and the Arrow. I am
shortly heading out on a couple errands - I will photograph a couple of
different locations with this Device you are discussing.
From: John Brooking <johnbrooking4@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sat, Feb 26, 2022 2:17 pm
Subject: [wsmac] Re: Pedestrian signal guidelines
Is there sometimes a problem with the arrows not pointing in the right
direction? If so, that sounds like it would be a problem with how the
installation is done, and we can check that afterwards.
The diagram in the plan calls for a "Polara Model IN337 APS push button
assembly" or approved equivalent. I couldn't find that model mentioned at the
Polara product listing, maybe it's an old one. But most of the pictures did
show a button with an arrow, with the exception of the "Bulldog" model. That
one just has the concentric circles. The model numbers with the arrows start
with "INS" or "INX", so I would thinkthat the IN337 on the DOT plan is similar.
Cyclist, Cycling Educator, Technologist
On Sat, Feb 26, 2022 at 1:50 PM Carson Wood <carsonlwood@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
If this is reviewed it should be noted that the push button on audible signals
is an arrow. Logically, the arrow should point exactly in the direction the
blind pedestrian is supposed to travel. From: wsmac-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
<wsmac-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of John Brooking
Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2022 12:17 PM
Cc: Jill <jjohanning@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [wsmac] Pedestrian signal guidelines Hello again, WSMAC, Local
architect and Discover Downtown Westbrook Design Committee member Jill
Johanning recently followed up with her DOT ADA contact on a question we had
about pedestrian request buttons. It was mentioned in the DOT plans for the
William Clark Drive project this summer that the push button "maximum allowable
reach distance" shall be 24" (Sheet 10, "Pedestrian Signals and Push Buttons",
#7). Our first question was, what does "maximum allowable reach distance" mean?
It is the length you have to reach to get the button. In this diagram from ADA
guidelines, it is the measurement at the bottom, recommended to be 255 mm max,
or 10". Since the DOT plan says 24" instead of 10", the DOT ADA contact that
Jill spoke to promised she would have it changed to 10" in the project plan.
I'll note this in our WCD Project Notes Document. Jill included a link to this
"Public Rights Of Way Guidelines" (PROWAG) document from the federal
government, which includes lots of information about recommended dimensions of
pedestrian infrastructure in Sections 3 and 4, Technical Requirements. John
BrookingCyclist, Cycling Educator, Technologisthttp://cyclingsavvy.org