Silicon Realms toolworks. http://siliconrealms.com/index.shtml It was probably a trial and if it's been there very long will have expired. *********************************************************** Actuall I think it was McAfee. Windows plus has a three month trial version. So when I bought it I bought it from digital rivers. I have gotten all of that program off here except a file It is in a backup on hijackthis. I also had pcpitsoft on back up but restored it Also I put housecontrol back on. I clicked on the backups and they were some of the missing .dll I posted a few days\weeks ago. The one for McAfee has lots of numbers then browser pop up folder. When I hit restore it has download.McAfee.com/mobin/shared/mgbrwFlf.cab Do you think it would be OK to delete it. The shared part made me wonder. Juanita --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.545 / Virus Database: 339 - Release Date: 11/27/03