Here's another interesting take: http://www.tmworld.com/blog/Taking_the_Measure/31504-It_s_the_car_No_it_s_the_driver_Wait_it_doesn_t_matter_.php?nid=3351&rid=8301620 These incidents are still pretty rare, even if you put all of the "possible cause" cases in the "proven" column. And putting the statistics in perspective, one could make the argument that Toyota could really make their cars a lot safer in these recalls if they left the accelerators alone and just disabled the cell phone prep ;-) -Joe -----Original Message----- From: tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bob Landman Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 12:47 PM To: tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tinwhiskers] Re: Toyota Hi Rod, Yes, NASA Goddard Space Flight Center, our tin whisker sleuths, Dr. Henning Leidecker, Jay Brusse and Michael Sampson are on the case. Here's another story on Toyota http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-toyota-deaths26-2010mar26,0,5790258.story Toyotas' sudden acceleration blamed for more deaths Including a recent surge of complaints, the defect has been raised as a possible cause of 102 fatalities, according to NHTSA records, lawsuits and police reports. Bob Landman H&L Instruments, LLC -----Original Message----- From: tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rod Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:59 AM To: tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tinwhiskers] Toyota www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/03/29/AR2010032903784.html?wpisrc=nl_cuzhead regards, Rod rod.dalitz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx