Our 1990 Mercury Sable was nicknamed "killer" as it had a sudden accelleration problem when it was new. The dealer had to install a flight recorder so we could trigger it when we had an unintended accelleration event. Took over a month to track it down to a defective accellerator pedal sensor. The replacement was also bad (Ford had a rash of them apparently). One would think the modern ECM would have that feature built in? Bob -----Original Message----- From: tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:tinwhiskers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Rod Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 6:44 AM To: tinwhiskers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [tinwhiskers] Re: Toyota On 11 Feb 2010, at 20:51, Werner Engelmaier wrote: > As I understand it, Toyota still does not understand the root cause of their > problem. Understandable - 2243 incidents over several years with over 7 million vehicles and god knows how many million miles traveled? with no embedded monitor to figure what happened? I have worked out some weird scenarios in aerospace which led to equipment failure, which took a lot of analysis. What automobile has a flight recorder? At least there was some objective evidence. People are in general not good at observing dispassionately - especially when headed toward disaster. regards, Rod rod.dalitz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx