[THIN] Re: Novell Integration
- From: "Matt Kosht" <matt.kosht@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 11:19:49 -0400
If the only reason you have a Win 2K domain is Citrix you can switch to
a simple workgroup (all local accounts) if you go with DLU there is no
reason for a domain or AD for that matter. NDS will store all the user
ID's and you can roam your profiles to a Netware server if you don't
want to deal with have a Windows server store the profiles.
Check out CTX101898 on the Citrix support site before you change your
infrastructure again. This is a very good document that details the
various setups and options for Novell integration.
>>> craig@xxxxxxxxxxxx 9/30/2003 10:24:27 AM >>>
This is a NetWare 5.1 server, with, I assume Zenworks 2. Im not 100%
sure,
though. Most of the workstations are Pentium I and II machines running
Windows
95 and are logging into the NetWare tree only. I only introduced the
2000
domain for Citrix.
Quoting Bill Conwell <wconwell@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Hi,
> Are your users logging into both the domain and the tree?
> Are you running eDir, and if so, which version?
> What version of Zen are you running? If you're running XP desktops
you'll
> need ZfDT4 in order to get DLU working. 3.2 DLU won't work with XP
(but will
> work with 2000).
> Bill
>
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> >>> craig@xxxxxxxxxxxx 09/29/03 10:41PM >>>
> I'm bringing up an old thread. :)
>
> We went with the dual Windows 2000 domain / Novell NetWare
integration.
> After resetting all of the 1500 passwords, one classroom at a time,
we're
> running into some issues. Ugh.
>
> Right now, we're using the Program Neighborhood v7 client on the
> workstations with the Novell Integration. Users type in their
username and
> password and everything works, sometimes. Often, what Ill see is
that Ill
> log into the application set, Ill hit refresh, and then it'll come
back
> saying that my credentials are incorrect. As far as I can tell, the
three
> Citrix servers are all setup the same. All have the correct
registry
> settings for NDS integration, etc. What's killing me is that this is
more
> of a problem on Mondays, after the servers reboot on Sunday. Once I
fumble
> with them on Monday to attempt to get them working, the problem seem
to go
> away and works its self out the rest of the week.
>
> We're pretty much done with the project, but this integration is
killing me.
> Two user accounts, the password syncs, this Program Neighborhood
problem,
> etc. I've got one of our Novell guys coming out tomorrow to help me
out
> with the DLU/Zenworks integration to see how well that runs.
>
> One odd thing that I've noticed. If I remember correctly, the
advanced
> Citrix FR3 guide states that to have the Microsoft Network
authentication
> piece before the Novell NetWare piece in the provider order. I've
found
> that in this particular setup I get problems I'm having currently
with
> Program Neighborhood if I /don't/ have the Novell NetWare piece at
the top
> of the list.
>
> Anyway, I'm hoping that this DLU/Zenworks deal can save my behind.
This
> login problem is /killing/ me. Any ideas?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Craig M. Luchtefeld [mailto:craig@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 7:56 AM
> To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'
> Subject: Novell Integration
>
>
> Does anyone have any thoughts about which Novell integration route is
better
> -- the ZENWorks/Dynamic Local User route or the simultaneous Windows
2000
> domain route with dual accounts?
>
> I've got a school I'm working with, approximately 1500 students with
the
> environment holding anywhere from 150-200 concurrent sessions. We're
still
> in the 'testing' phase, so we can still go either route for
deployment. My
> problem with the Windows 2000/Novell route is that they're going to
have to
> create two accounts for every student, we're going to have to
sync/reset all
> their passwords, and they're going to have one more point of failure
(if the
> DC goes down).
>
> Honestly, I need to read up a bit more on how the ZENWorks deal
works, but
> if its creating a dynamic local user, my thought is how are roaming
profiles
> going to work?
>
> Anyway, has anyone had the opportunity to take a look at both of
these
> pieces and examine the advantages/disadvantages to both? From the
Advanced
> Guide for FR3, I saw the integration steps for them both, but if I
remember
> correctly, it didn't state advantages/disadvantages to either.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Craig
>
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