Are you trying to passthru authentication on clients? I would get the same error when the users Windows and Novell ID/Password were somehow different (passed the wrong credentials). Faced with the similar issues DLU was really the only way I found unless you enjoy password administration ad nauseum. >>> craig@xxxxxxxxxxxx 9/29/2003 10:41:49 PM >>> I'm bringing up an old thread. :) We went with the dual Windows 2000 domain / Novell NetWare integration. After resetting all of the 1500 passwords, one classroom at a time, we're running into some issues. Ugh. Right now, we're using the Program Neighborhood v7 client on the workstations with the Novell Integration. Users type in their username and password and everything works, sometimes. Often, what Ill see is that Ill log into the application set, Ill hit refresh, and then it'll come back saying that my credentials are incorrect. As far as I can tell, the three Citrix servers are all setup the same. All have the correct registry settings for NDS integration, etc. What's killing me is that this is more of a problem on Mondays, after the servers reboot on Sunday. Once I fumble with them on Monday to attempt to get them working, the problem seem to go away and works its self out the rest of the week. We're pretty much done with the project, but this integration is killing me. Two user accounts, the password syncs, this Program Neighborhood problem, etc. I've got one of our Novell guys coming out tomorrow to help me out with the DLU/Zenworks integration to see how well that runs. One odd thing that I've noticed. If I remember correctly, the advanced Citrix FR3 guide states that to have the Microsoft Network authentication piece before the Novell NetWare piece in the provider order. I've found that in this particular setup I get problems I'm having currently with Program Neighborhood if I /don't/ have the Novell NetWare piece at the top of the list. Anyway, I'm hoping that this DLU/Zenworks deal can save my behind. This login problem is /killing/ me. Any ideas? -----Original Message----- From: Craig M. Luchtefeld [mailto:craig@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 7:56 AM To: 'thin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: Novell Integration Does anyone have any thoughts about which Novell integration route is better -- the ZENWorks/Dynamic Local User route or the simultaneous Windows 2000 domain route with dual accounts? I've got a school I'm working with, approximately 1500 students with the environment holding anywhere from 150-200 concurrent sessions. We're still in the 'testing' phase, so we can still go either route for deployment. My problem with the Windows 2000/Novell route is that they're going to have to create two accounts for every student, we're going to have to sync/reset all their passwords, and they're going to have one more point of failure (if the DC goes down). Honestly, I need to read up a bit more on how the ZENWorks deal works, but if its creating a dynamic local user, my thought is how are roaming profiles going to work? Anyway, has anyone had the opportunity to take a look at both of these pieces and examine the advantages/disadvantages to both? From the Advanced Guide for FR3, I saw the integration steps for them both, but if I remember correctly, it didn't state advantages/disadvantages to either. Thanks in advance, Craig ******************************************************** This Week's Sponsor - Emergent Online Essential Thin Client Utilities. Meet Jim Kenzig of thethin.net at the Emergent Online Booth #24 at Citrix iForum on October 13th. http://www.go-eol.com ********************************************************** Useful Thin Client Computing Links are available at: http://thethin.net/links.cfm New! Online Thin Computing Magazine Site http://www.OnDemandAccess.com For Archives, to Unsubscribe, Subscribe or set Digest or Vacation mode use the below link: http://thethin.net/citrixlist.cfm