As Carolyn aptly notes: there are too many people. Period. The world can't carry 8 billion. And it will not sustain an American lifestyle for all 8 billion either. All that being said, I lived in Austin until about two months ago and I do know far too many people who live lives like that which Joseph describes, and while they are not the proximate cause of the problem, their ignorance of the reality of where they live and the choices they make and the self-righteousness they live with is, well, obnoxious and it adds to the problem. You want to really hear so-called Austin-liberals howl? Wait til the constant level lakes start getting drained. All those home values on Lake LBJ will implode. None of that matters as much as one simple fact: Texas is in a multi-year drought that will prove just as bad, or worse than the Big One in the fifties. We're poor stewards of the land, allowing all of this horribly unchecked growth in Central Texas and the Hill Country and we're pretty much getting what we deserve. Sean Paul Kelley Central San Antonio Edit your Freelists account settings for TEXBIRDS at //www.freelists.org/list/texbirds Reposting of traffic from TEXBIRDS is prohibited without seeking permission from the List Owner