[TechAssist] Re: Useful and Professional Posting Suggestions
- From: larry <schntv@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 13:13:51 -0400
Perry,
I had the same gut reaction, when I read his post, but I am
assuming he only meant to help.
I love this list just the way it is.
Why cant people just delete the posts with the subject line
they are not interested in?
I think there should only be one leader, and I like the
administrators leadership.
If he wants some thing said I know he is capable of doing it,
unless he has appointed an assistance, I will wait for his
instructions.
Just my opinion,
Larry
Electric Medic wrote:
>
> WHO IN THE HE-- DO YOU THINK YOU ARE???? YOU ARE NOT MY BOSS. YOU ARE MY
> PEER. As far as I am concerned using your own terminology, your post was non
> technical, what was it doing on here? You better preach to yourself, or try
> and give some tips on some TV's. maybe you are better at that. Why don't you
> just tell the truth dude. YOU DO NOT LIKE SOME DISCUSSIONS, and a few of
> your buddies want to make this list just a tips list. Why don't you give us
> the numbers: How many agreed with you? After hearing what you have to say,
> now I see why so many members have privately said you better not post on
> tech assist, you will be reprimanded. What a shame. I am checking the
> archives now to see how many total helpful fixes you have given. I would
> love to compare ours. You do not have to beat around the bush, why don't
> you just say my name, when you said: " a few of you think because you spend
> a good deal of time helping others you can post whatever you want and should
> not be reminded to keep
> your posts relevant to technical support". That is the biggest amount of
> bull that I have ever heard. Yes, I do help many because I enjoy doing so,
> but members like you make me want to sit back and just monitor and not help.
> And from the private replies I have received on this topic, many members
> already are doing that. As far as the many replies to my original post WHY?
> Why don't you get your facts straight. I made one original post, and many
> replied, don't you realize that there are many members here, if many members
> reply to a thread, there will be many replies to a subject. Are you saying
> every member can not reply to a thread? What are you saying??????? I would
> hope that if a member makes a post, that if there are hundreds of replies
> that you and the others in charge are not going to freak out everytime. That
> is what you get when you have hundreds of members. I guess you want to
> decide whom responds. Sorry, I do not have time for this. If I sit up at
> 3:00 in the morning and email a manual to help another member, I be Damn if
> I will put up with this preaching. Have fun with your future dogs. I
> wouldn't help you if your shop depended on it to survive. You very
> unappreciative soul.
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:techassist-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Leonard Caillouet
> Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2003 11:52 PM
> To: techassist@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [TechAssist] Useful and Professional Posting Suggestions
>
> There has been a great deal of back and forth regarding the appropriateness
> of posts and the proliferation of threads that get off track. After
> extensive conversations with members of the list and with the adminstrators,
> I have decided to make some suggestions. This list is a great resource and
> we should do everything we can to keep it so and to make it better.
>
> First, we should all remember why we are here. We are here to help each
> other to be more effective in our profession. By sharing information we can
> be more efficient techs and more profitable businessmen. The primary reason
> this group was established was to provide Technical Assistance, however, not
> business related advice, humor, feel-good touchy feelies, or idle chit chat.
> There is an amount of all of these that can be tolerated, but in order to
> keep the list efficient and effective we should all be mindfull of what we
> post and attempt to keep them to a minimum. This is what the administrators
> have been trying to say. The business related stuff is mostly OK, and
> occasional BS can be tolerated, but some limits have to be set.
>
> Second, the administrators spend a great deal of time on this listserve and
> the website and receive little in return. They are doing us a great service
> and deserve a little slack. The more we do to police our own posts the less
> they have to do. Sometimes they have not said things with grace, nor with a
> great deal of consistency and people have gotten upset. Get over it and
> show some appreciation for their work to make all of us more professional
> and effective. We can all do a better job of making our posts relevant.
> All of us. Myself included.
>
> Third, a few of you think because you spend a good deal of time helping
> others you can post whatever you want and should not be reminded to keep
> your posts relevant to technical support. You are simply wrong. Your help
> is appreciated and you should not take constructive criticism as meaning
> that it is not. The list administrators don't take it that way. They
> respond quite professionally to suggestions to improve the list, including
> the suggestion that critique of our posts needs to be more consistent and
> more clear. I have recently had that conversation and they will attempt to
> improve on that. We need to do our part and respond likewise.
>
> Fourth, many of the users of this list do not seem to appreciate the value
> of the list archives. A link can be found at the bottom of every post.
> Many of you never even bother to check the archives or tips on the web site
> before asking a question. You can often save yourself a lot of time and get
> more information by checking there BEFORE posting a question. When
> searching the archives it is painfully obvious that too much chit chat goes
> on because you have to go through so much of it sometimes to get to the
> useful information. Also, changing the subject line screws up the archives,
> so start a new one rather than changing in the middle of a thread.
>
> Finally, I'd like to quote Jeff Dougherty (Intrepid Video TV/VCR), who
> recently posted some very wise, reasonable and appropriate advice that
> reflects the views of most of the members that I have communicated with and
> the administrators:
>
> "I don't think it was the whole thread that was the problem, but some of the
> replies to it that pretty much DID NOT contribute to the subject at
> hand...If replies are made informative, to the point and subject, then there
> usually is no problem."
>
> If you can't live with that, you need to be somewhere else.
>
> Jeff, I hope you don't mind my quoting and snipping part of it. I mean in
> no way to imply that the suggestions in this post are your views, but your
> words were reflective of what many on the list feel.
>
> Be well all. Be in touch. Be reasonable.
>
> Leonard Caillouet
> Electronics World
> Gainesville, FL
>
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