Eleanor, yes it does, and it's more difficult to do this with a slide phone anyway. Cheers Alex -----Original Message----- From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke Sent: 25 August 2010 23:34 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 I have heard cases like yours Yvonne but this has never happened to me. I would have thought it had more to do with key lock than a mute funcjtion though. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: "yvonne oliver" <yvonne.oliver@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:28 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 >i can verify that one > i have even dialled peoples numbers with the phone in my pocket > now i have the option to mute on keylock this no longer happens > it's not impressive when someone calls you and tells you what you were > saying to someone totally different and unconnected with the person your > phone has just dialled > > Yvonne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alex Stone" <alex.stone@xxxxxxxxx> > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:23 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 > > > Yes but if you have this setting set to no, talks will happily talk away > to > itself as buttons are pressed while it's in your pocket. > Cheers > Alex > > -----Original Message----- > From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Barry Hill > Sent: 24 August 2010 19:15 > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 > > I've found out why it only says unlocked and not locked. In the talks > advanced settings, there is a setting to select mute on keylock. If, like > me, you have that set to yes, it won't announce when unlocking as it won't > announce when it is locked. Change this setting to 'no' and it says both. > > Cheers > > Barry > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "yvonne oliver" <yvonne.oliver@xxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:06 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 > > > hi Barry > mine also only announces when locked > probably because i have the slider set to answer when opening and locking > keypad on closing > wonder if there is a setting where ending a call when closing > but when i press the rubbery key a second time talks says network date > battery etcetera but certainly does not say keypad unlocked > > Yvonne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:53 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 > > >> Hi all >> >> Yup, I can confirm that the switch on the left side is the lock key. At >> first, I didn't see a point for it but, as you get familiar with the >> phone, >> you'll find that you will use it more and more. You don't need to slide >> it >> open to use many of the aps. One thing, though, is that on mine, it only >> announces when it is locked, not when it is unlocked. >> >> I'm almost certain that Windows Explorer will work with the mobile if you >> connect it to a computer as Explorer automatically starts up when I >> connect >> mine up. I can then search through the mobile in a tree . I've also got >> PC >> Suite installed. It did come on a disc with the phone, but I downloaded >> the latest version from the net. >> >> Cheers >> >> Barry >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 5:50 PM >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 >> >> >> Hi Yvonne. >> >> First, the little rubber piece down the left-hand side of the casing is >> probably the key lock/unlock switch which you can use instead of sliding >> open the phone. (Mine doesn't have rubber on it, but that's all I can >> think >> you mean.) Try it and you'll probably feel it spring slightly and then >> Talks will speak, either keylock locked or unlocked. >> >> With regard to the back cover, once you've done it a few times you'll be >> fine. Your finger nail needs to be in the smaller slot, not the rim that >> goes all the way across the casing. In fact, if your finger is correctly >> positioned and you pull slightly apart, it does come reasonably easily. >> I >> appreciate the length of finger nails may be a problem to you. You may >> find >> a coin will work, as long as you're careful about it. >> >> Now, I'm not sure what you actually want to do with your card as I wasn't >> totally following this thread further back. If you can tell me what you >> were wanting to get the card out in the first place for then I may be >> able >> to help by suggesting another method. Sometimes you are able to transfer >> files quite happily between Windows Explorer and the N86. (I had already >> put Nokia PC Suite on my computer, which I downloaded from the internet, >> so >> don't know if it would have worked with no other phone software; but I >> know >> sometimes it will. (You can use software from the CD, but to be honest >> I >> haven't looked at mine really as software with packaged goods quite often >> is >> out of date and so I only use it if I can't find what I want from the >> Internet.) >> >> I hope this all makes some sense to you and I've covered a few of the >> things >> that you need answering. >> >> Come back with the answers to those questions and I'll look out and see >> if >> I >> can help you further. >> >> Regards: >> >> -- >> Carol >> >> >> ---- Original Message ---- >> From: yvonne oliver >> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:55 PM >> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 >> >>> hello carol >>> thank you for email reply >>> u s b idea sound the better method but do i need to >>> install the cd that came with the handset? >>> and i have asked a couple of people but not yet got an >>> answer >>> the question i asked them is what does that little rubber >>> switch on the left side of the casing for and what does >>> it do? >>> as far as i can see it is the only thing down the left >>> hand side of the casing >>> >>> Yvonne >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Carol Pearson >>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:47 PM >>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 >>> >>> >>> The memory card is particularly tricky to extract from >>> the N86. I think you're supposed to be able to push a >>> switch to get it out but certainly can't put it in >>> without taking the back off; so I always remove the back >>> if I have to remove the card. >>> >>> However, Eleanor is also right. If you have a USB cable >>> and these programmes for your phone, that's a better idea >>> than removing the card. >>> >>> She also right in that the File Manager does show you >>> whether you are looking at the card's contents or not, so >>> give it a go! >>> >>> -- >>> Carol >>> carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a >>> >>> ---- Original Message ---- >>> From: Eleanor Burke >>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:17 PM >>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 >>> >>> > I would suggest that in order to find what it is on your >>> > memory card you go to Menu and Office. In Office you >>> > should find File Manager and when you select File >>> > Manager you should have a choice of looking at files on >>> > the C Drive or the Memory Card. Failing this if you >>> > have a USB cable you could plug that in to the computer >>> > and the phone, that is to say if you have the right >>> > phone connection cable. this way you can then look at >>> > what is on your memory card. >>> > >>> > you do not have to start taking off the back of your >>> > phone, I am fairly sure to find the memory card. I >>> > would have thought it was accessable through the side >>> > of the phone. This is the case with all my phones >>> > where there is a little rubber flap which I can lift up >>> > with a finger nail (when I have a finger nail Lol!) and >>> > the memory card can be ejected by pushing it in which >>> > releases a tiny spring. However, a memory card is >>> > absolutely tiny and very thin too so you would need to >>> > take great care to ensure that you did not drop it. >>> > While I have some vision, I still like to remove the >>> > memory card while sitting at a table so that I can put >>> > it down exactly where I know it is. When replacing the >>> > memory card you again have to ensure that it goes in >>> > the correct way, the area which needs to connect with >>> > thephone going in first. I also had to get used to >>> > aligning it up correctly and then a gentle press with a >>> > tip of finger or fingernail until you can feel it slot >>> > back in to position. >>> > >>> > Eleanor >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: yvonne oliver >>> > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:41 PM >>> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 >>> > >>> > >>> > hello Eleanor >>> > the reader is £75 so you are correct >>> > the reason i cant get to the sim and memory cards is >>> > because the back cover is different in fixing to other >>> > handsets >>> > all other handsets the back cover had a small button of >>> > which when pressed in allows the cover to slide down or >>> > up depending on removing or placing back on >>> > this one has a small groove under the bottom edge of the >>> > casing and i have no finger nails >>> > >>> > if i could find something that i can use in place of >>> > nails then i will be able to add remove or change the >>> > sim and memory cards >>> > why can't nokia leave things as they are >>> > why do they have to keep changing things around with >>> > each handset they release >>> > the charging unit has been changed as well >>> > first of it was a 3.5 mill jack plug this was changed to >>> > a 2.5 one and now it's of the u s b style type >>> > >>> > >>> > Yvonne >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: Eleanor Burke >>> > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:31 PM >>> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 >>> > >>> > >>> > You are right phone switch is a more effecient means of >>> > transferring data from one phone to another. I would >>> > have thought that someone with an N86 could tell you how >>> > to get to phone switch. Phone switch does indeed use >>> > the Bluetooth mechanism for transferring data. I would >>> > have also thought you should be able to remove a memory >>> > card without sighted assistance but again I could be >>> > wrong. On all my phones I have no difficulty in >>> > removing a memory card but maybe you have dexterity >>> > problems. Someone should again be able to tell you the >>> > procedure for removing a memory card from the N86. >>> > Finally the OCR is Bayos or something like that, I have >>> > not got the spelling correct. It is a software package >>> > which can now be used on Mobile phones with Talks and >>> > costs in the region of £75 but again I can stand >>> > corrected. >>> > >>> > Eleanor >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: yvonne oliver >>> > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:13 AM >>> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 >>> > >>> > >>> > I wonder did you use phone switch to copy your contacts. >>> > >>> > no i used the old fashioned blue tooth and the long >>> > winded way of opening text message and move to contacts >>> > list >>> > not sure what phone switch is >>> > but from what i can make out it is a quicker way of >>> > transferring data >>> > One way of knowing if they are on the memory card is >>> > to take out the memory card and see if they are there >>> > on the phone. >>> > >>> > for this i will need sighted assistance >>> > i can do that myself on my e90 but this handset is not >>> > so easy >>> > You might also like to take out your SIM card to check >>> > for certain in case they are on the SIM. >>> > >>> > again this would require sighted assistance but i will >>> > certainly see about those last two suggestions thank >>> > you. Are you talking about OCR technology? I am not >>> > sure. That is Optical Character Recognition which blind >>> > people use when scanning in a document (print) to read >>> > with a screen reader. >>> > >>> > i got an email from the previous owner he said this is >>> > something used to scan things like menu's in restaurants >>> > etcetera but he did not get on with it >>> > mind you i have not found anyone yet that has >>> > i also heard that this software is not all that reliable >>> > he did inform me that sight and sound do a version for >>> > £650 >>> > not able to afford that unless i can get a grant or >>> > funding >>> > so once again thank you for your help >>> > >>> > Yvonne >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: Eleanor Burke >>> > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:30 AM >>> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 >>> > >>> > >>> > I wonder did you use phone switch to copy your contacts. >>> > One way of knowing if they are on the memory card is to >>> > take out the memory card and see if they are there on >>> > the phone. You might also like to take out your SIM >>> > card to check for certain in case they are on the SIM. >>> > Are you talking about OCR technology? I am not sure. >>> > That is Optical Character Recognition which blind >>> > people use when scanning in a document (print) to read >>> > with a screen reader. >>> > ----- Original Message ----- >>> > From: yvonne oliver >>> > To: talks >>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:58 AM >>> > Subject: [talks-uk] n86 >>> > >>> > >>> > hi last night i copied my contacts from my e90 to the >>> > n86 however i may of copied them to the memory card >>> > instead of the phone memory >>> > how do i tell where they are if they are on the memory >>> > card or the phone memory and how do i switch from one to >>> > the other? >>> > and of course if they are on the memory card how would >>> > i transfer them to the phone memory? >>> > and what is a o b c reader or whatever it is called what >>> > is it and what does it do >>> > >>> > Yvonne >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3090 - Release Date: 08/23/10 >> 19:34:00 >> >> > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3091 - Release Date: 08/24/10 > 07:34:00 > > > >