[talks-uk] Re: n86

  • From: "Alex Stone" <alex.stone@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 27 Aug 2010 22:22:04 +0100

Eleanor, yes it does, and it's more difficult to do this with a slide phone
anyway.
Cheers
Alex

-----Original Message-----
From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Eleanor Burke
Sent: 25 August 2010 23:34
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86

I have heard cases like yours Yvonne but this has never happened to me.  I 
would have thought it had more to do with key lock than a mute funcjtion 
though.

Eleanor
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "yvonne oliver" <yvonne.oliver@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:28 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86


>i can verify that one
> i have even dialled peoples numbers with the phone in my pocket
> now i have the option to mute on keylock this no longer happens
> it's not impressive when someone calls you and tells you what you were 
> saying to someone totally different and unconnected with the person your 
> phone has just dialled
>
> Yvonne
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alex Stone" <alex.stone@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 11:23 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
>
>
> Yes but if you have this setting set to no, talks will happily talk away 
> to
> itself as buttons are pressed while it's in your pocket.
> Cheers
> Alex
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Barry Hill
> Sent: 24 August 2010 19:15
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
>
> I've found out why it only says unlocked and not locked.  In the talks
> advanced settings, there is a setting to select mute on keylock.  If, like
> me, you have that set to yes, it won't announce when unlocking as it won't
> announce when it is locked.  Change this setting to 'no' and it says both.
>
> Cheers
>
> Barry
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "yvonne oliver" <yvonne.oliver@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 7:06 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
>
>
> hi Barry
> mine also only announces when locked
> probably because i have the slider set to answer when opening and locking
> keypad on closing
> wonder if there is a setting where ending a call when closing
> but when i press the rubbery key a second time talks says network date
> battery etcetera but certainly does not say keypad unlocked
>
> Yvonne
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Barry Hill" <bbinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:53 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
>
>
>> Hi all
>>
>> Yup, I can confirm that the switch on the left side is the lock key.  At
>> first, I didn't see a point for it but, as you get familiar with the
>> phone,
>> you'll find that you will use it more and more.  You don't need to slide
>> it
>> open to use many of the aps.  One thing, though, is that on mine, it only
>> announces when it is locked, not when it is unlocked.
>>
>> I'm almost certain that Windows Explorer will work with the mobile if you
>> connect it to a computer as Explorer automatically starts up when I
>> connect
>> mine up.  I can then search through the mobile in a tree .  I've also got
>> PC
>> Suite installed.  It did come on a disc with the phone, but I  downloaded
>> the latest version from the net.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Barry
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Carol Pearson" <carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 5:50 PM
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
>>
>>
>> Hi Yvonne.
>>
>> First, the little rubber piece down the left-hand side of the casing is
>> probably the key lock/unlock switch which you can use instead of sliding
>> open the phone.  (Mine doesn't have rubber on it, but that's all I can
>> think
>> you mean.)  Try it and you'll probably feel it spring slightly and then
>> Talks will speak, either keylock locked or unlocked.
>>
>> With regard to the back cover, once you've done it a few times you'll be
>> fine.  Your finger nail needs to be in the smaller slot, not the rim that
>> goes all the way across the casing.  In fact, if your finger is correctly
>> positioned and you pull slightly apart, it does come reasonably easily. 
>> I
>> appreciate the length of finger nails may be a problem to you.  You may
>> find
>> a coin will work, as long as you're careful about it.
>>
>> Now, I'm not sure what you actually want to do with your card as I wasn't
>> totally following this thread further back.  If you can tell me what you
>> were wanting to get the card out in the first place for then I may be 
>> able
>> to help by suggesting another method.  Sometimes you are able to transfer
>> files quite happily between Windows Explorer and the N86.  (I had already
>> put Nokia PC Suite on my computer, which I downloaded from the internet,
>> so
>> don't know if it would have worked with no other phone software;  but I
>> know
>> sometimes it will.   (You can use software from the CD, but to be honest 
>> I
>> haven't looked at mine really as software with packaged goods quite often
>> is
>> out of date and so I only use it if I can't find what I want from the
>> Internet.)
>>
>> I hope this all makes some sense to you and I've covered a few of the
>> things
>> that you need answering.
>>
>> Come back with the answers to those questions and I'll look out and see 
>> if
>> I
>> can help you further.
>>
>> Regards:
>>
>> --
>> Carol
>>
>>
>> ---- Original Message ----
>> From: yvonne oliver
>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:55 PM
>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
>>
>>> hello carol
>>> thank you for email reply
>>> u s b idea sound the better method but do i need to
>>> install the cd that came with the handset?
>>> and i have asked a couple of people but not yet got an
>>> answer
>>> the question i asked them is what does that little rubber
>>> switch on the left side of the casing for and what does
>>> it do?
>>> as far as i can see it is the only thing down the left
>>> hand side of the casing
>>>
>>> Yvonne
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Carol Pearson
>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:47 PM
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
>>>
>>>
>>> The memory card is particularly tricky to extract from
>>> the N86.  I think you're supposed to be able to push a
>>> switch to get it out but certainly can't put it in
>>> without taking the back off;  so I always remove the back
>>> if I have to remove the card.
>>>
>>> However, Eleanor is also right.  If you have a USB cable
>>> and these programmes for your phone, that's a better idea
>>> than removing the card.
>>>
>>> She also right in that the File Manager does show you
>>> whether you are looking at the card's contents or not, so
>>> give it a go!
>>>
>>> --
>>> Carol
>>> carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> On Twitter:  http://twitter.com/songbird49a
>>>
>>> ---- Original Message ----
>>> From: Eleanor Burke
>>> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:17 PM
>>> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
>>>
>>> > I would suggest that in order to find what it is on your
>>> > memory card you go to Menu and Office.  In Office you
>>> > should find File Manager and when you select File
>>> > Manager you should have a choice of looking at files on
>>> > the C Drive or the Memory Card.  Failing this if you
>>> > have a USB cable you could plug that in to the computer
>>> > and the phone, that is to say if you have the right
>>> > phone connection cable.  this way you can then look at
>>> > what is on your memory card.
>>> >
>>> > you do not have to start taking off the back of your
>>> > phone, I am fairly sure to find the memory card.  I
>>> > would have thought it was accessable through the side
>>> > of the phone.  This is the case with all my phones
>>> > where there is a little rubber flap which I can lift up
>>> > with a finger nail (when I have a finger nail Lol!) and
>>> > the memory card can be ejected by pushing it in which
>>> > releases a tiny spring.  However, a memory card is
>>> > absolutely tiny and very thin too so you would need to
>>> > take great care to ensure that you did not drop it.
>>> > While I have some vision, I still like to remove the
>>> > memory card while sitting at a table so that I can put
>>> > it down exactly where I know it is.  When replacing the
>>> > memory card you again have to ensure that it goes in
>>> > the correct way, the area which needs to connect with
>>> > thephone going in first. I also had to get used to
>>> > aligning it up correctly and then a gentle press with a
>>> > tip of finger or fingernail until you can feel it slot
>>> > back in to position.
>>> >
>>> > Eleanor
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: yvonne oliver
>>> > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:41 PM
>>> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > hello Eleanor
>>> > the reader is £75 so you are correct
>>> > the reason i cant get to the sim and memory cards is
>>> > because the back cover is different in fixing to other
>>> > handsets
>>> > all other handsets the back cover had a small button of
>>> > which when pressed in allows the cover to slide down or
>>> > up depending on removing or placing back on
>>> > this one has a small groove under the bottom edge of the
>>> > casing and i have no finger nails
>>> >
>>> > if i could find something that i can use in place of
>>> > nails then i will be able to add remove or change the
>>> > sim and memory cards
>>> > why can't nokia leave things as they are
>>> > why do they have to keep changing things around with
>>> > each handset they release
>>> > the charging unit has been changed as well
>>> > first of it was a 3.5 mill jack plug this was changed to
>>> > a 2.5 one and now it's of the u s b style type
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Yvonne
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: Eleanor Burke
>>> > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:31 PM
>>> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > You are right phone switch is a more effecient means of
>>> > transferring data from one phone to another.  I would
>>> > have thought that someone with an N86 could tell you how
>>> > to get to phone switch.  Phone switch does indeed use
>>> > the Bluetooth mechanism for transferring data.  I would
>>> > have also thought you should be able to remove a memory
>>> > card without sighted assistance but again I could be
>>> > wrong. On all my phones I have no difficulty in
>>> > removing a memory card but maybe you have dexterity
>>> > problems. Someone should again be able to tell you the
>>> > procedure for removing a memory card from the N86.
>>> > Finally the OCR is Bayos or something like that, I have
>>> > not got the spelling correct.  It is a software package
>>> > which can now be used on Mobile phones with Talks and
>>> > costs in the region of £75 but again I can stand
>>> > corrected.
>>> >
>>> > Eleanor
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: yvonne oliver
>>> > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:13 AM
>>> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I wonder did you use phone switch to copy your contacts.
>>> >
>>> > no i used the old fashioned blue tooth and the long
>>> > winded way of opening text message and move to contacts
>>> > list
>>> > not sure what phone switch is
>>> > but from what i can make out it is a quicker way of
>>> > transferring data
>>> >   One way of knowing if they are on the memory card is
>>> > to take out the memory card and see if they are there
>>> > on the phone.
>>> >
>>> > for this i will need sighted assistance
>>> > i can do that myself on my e90 but this handset is not
>>> > so easy
>>> >   You might also like to take out your SIM card to check
>>> > for certain in case they are on the SIM.
>>> >
>>> > again this would require sighted assistance but i will
>>> > certainly see about those last two suggestions thank
>>> >  you. Are you talking about OCR technology?  I am not
>>> > sure. That is Optical Character Recognition which blind
>>> > people use when scanning in a document (print) to read
>>> > with a screen reader.
>>> >
>>> > i got an email from the previous owner he said this is
>>> > something used to scan things like menu's in restaurants
>>> > etcetera but he did not get on with it
>>> > mind you i have not found anyone yet that has
>>> > i also heard that this software is not all that reliable
>>> > he did inform me that sight and sound do a version for
>>> > £650
>>> > not able to afford that unless i can get a grant or
>>> > funding
>>> > so once again thank you for your help
>>> >
>>> > Yvonne
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: Eleanor Burke
>>> > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:30 AM
>>> > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I wonder did you use phone switch to copy your contacts.
>>> > One way of knowing if they are on the memory card is to
>>> > take out the memory card and see if they are there on
>>> > the phone.  You might also like to take out your SIM
>>> > card to check for certain in case they are on the SIM.
>>> > Are you talking about OCR technology?  I am not sure.
>>> > That is Optical Character Recognition which blind
>>> > people use when scanning in a document (print) to read
>>> > with a screen reader.
>>> > ----- Original Message -----
>>> > From: yvonne oliver
>>> > To: talks
>>> > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:58 AM
>>> > Subject: [talks-uk] n86
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > hi last night i copied my contacts from my e90 to the
>>> > n86 however i may of copied them to the memory card
>>> > instead of the phone memory
>>> > how do i tell where they are if they are on the memory
>>> > card or the phone memory and how do i switch from one to
>>> > the other?
>>> > and of course if they are on the  memory card how would
>>> > i transfer them to the phone memory?
>>> > and what is a o b c reader or whatever it is called what
>>> > is it and what does it do
>>> >
>>> > Yvonne
>>
>>
>>
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