The memory card is particularly tricky to extract from the N86. I think you're supposed to be able to push a switch to get it out but certainly can't put it in without taking the back off; so I always remove the back if I have to remove the card. However, Eleanor is also right. If you have a USB cable and these programmes for your phone, that's a better idea than removing the card. She also right in that the File Manager does show you whether you are looking at the card's contents or not, so give it a go! -- Carol carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx On Twitter: http://twitter.com/songbird49a ---- Original Message ---- From: Eleanor Burke To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:17 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 > I would suggest that in order to find what it is on your > memory card you go to Menu and Office. In Office you > should find File Manager and when you select File Manager > you should have a choice of looking at files on the C > Drive or the Memory Card. Failing this if you have a USB > cable you could plug that in to the computer and the > phone, that is to say if you have the right phone > connection cable. this way you can then look at what is > on your memory card. > > you do not have to start taking off the back of your > phone, I am fairly sure to find the memory card. I would > have thought it was accessable through the side of the > phone. This is the case with all my phones where there > is a little rubber flap which I can lift up with a finger > nail (when I have a finger nail Lol!) and the memory card > can be ejected by pushing it in which releases a tiny > spring. However, a memory card is absolutely tiny and > very thin too so you would need to take great care to > ensure that you did not drop it. While I have some > vision, I still like to remove the memory card while > sitting at a table so that I can put it down exactly > where I know it is. When replacing the memory card you > again have to ensure that it goes in the correct way, the > area which needs to connect with thephone going in first. > I also had to get used to aligning it up correctly and > then a gentle press with a tip of finger or fingernail > until you can feel it slot back in to position. > > Eleanor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: yvonne oliver > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:41 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 > > > hello Eleanor > the reader is £75 so you are correct > the reason i cant get to the sim and memory cards is > because the back cover is different in fixing to other > handsets > all other handsets the back cover had a small button of > which when pressed in allows the cover to slide down or > up depending on removing or placing back on > this one has a small groove under the bottom edge of the > casing and i have no finger nails > > if i could find something that i can use in place of > nails then i will be able to add remove or change the sim > and memory cards > why can't nokia leave things as they are > why do they have to keep changing things around with each > handset they release > the charging unit has been changed as well > first of it was a 3.5 mill jack plug this was changed to > a 2.5 one and now it's of the u s b style type > > > Yvonne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eleanor Burke > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:31 PM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 > > > You are right phone switch is a more effecient means of > transferring data from one phone to another. I would > have thought that someone with an N86 could tell you how > to get to phone switch. Phone switch does indeed use the > Bluetooth mechanism for transferring data. I would have > also thought you should be able to remove a memory card > without sighted assistance but again I could be wrong. > On all my phones I have no difficulty in removing a > memory card but maybe you have dexterity problems. > Someone should again be able to tell you the procedure > for removing a memory card from the N86. Finally the OCR > is Bayos or something like that, I have not got the > spelling correct. It is a software package which can now > be used on Mobile phones with Talks and costs in the > region of £75 but again I can stand corrected. > > Eleanor > ----- Original Message ----- > From: yvonne oliver > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:13 AM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 > > > I wonder did you use phone switch to copy your contacts. > > no i used the old fashioned blue tooth and the long > winded way of opening text message and move to contacts > list > not sure what phone switch is > but from what i can make out it is a quicker way of > transferring data > One way of knowing if they are on the memory card is to > take out the memory card and see if they are there on the > phone. > > for this i will need sighted assistance > i can do that myself on my e90 but this handset is not so > easy > You might also like to take out your SIM card to check > for certain in case they are on the SIM. > > again this would require sighted assistance but i will > certainly see about those last two suggestions thank you. > Are you talking about OCR technology? I am not sure. > That is Optical Character Recognition which blind people > use when scanning in a document (print) to read with a > screen reader. > > i got an email from the previous owner he said this is > something used to scan things like menu's in restaurants > etcetera but he did not get on with it > mind you i have not found anyone yet that has > i also heard that this software is not all that reliable > he did inform me that sight and sound do a version for > £650 > not able to afford that unless i can get a grant or > funding > so once again thank you for your help > > Yvonne > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Eleanor Burke > To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:30 AM > Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 > > > I wonder did you use phone switch to copy your contacts. > One way of knowing if they are on the memory card is to > take out the memory card and see if they are there on the > phone. You might also like to take out your SIM card to > check for certain in case they are on the SIM. Are you > talking about OCR technology? I am not sure. That is > Optical Character Recognition which blind people use when > scanning in a document (print) to read with a screen > reader. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: yvonne oliver > To: talks > Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:58 AM > Subject: [talks-uk] n86 > > > hi last night i copied my contacts from my e90 to the n86 > however i may of copied them to the memory card instead > of the phone memory > how do i tell where they are if they are on the memory > card or the phone memory and how do i switch from one to > the other? > and of course if they are on the memory card how would i > transfer them to the phone memory? > and what is a o b c reader or whatever it is called what > is it and what does it do > > Yvonne