[talks-uk] Re: n86
- From: "yvonne oliver" <yvonne.oliver@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 24 Aug 2010 19:01:13 +0100
hello Eleanor
there is indeed a memory card installed
this according to the previous owner if drive f
and c is the phone but not sure about e
but there is definitely a memory card installed
Yvonne
----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 6:58 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
The E drive would be where you would put in a memory card. Presumably you
have not put one in. It would therefore be empty.
----- Original Message -----
From: yvonne oliver
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 5:32 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
the previous owner has just rung me
he said it's a premium licence
as far as i am aware this is a licence that i can upgrade at no cost
i am sure Steve and/or Neil will correct me if i am wrong
he also says that there are 3 drives on the n86
c e and f
he said c was the phone and f was the 16 gb memory card
but i can't remember what he said e was
he did say however that wherever the contacts have hidden themselves they
won't be on the memory card
hopefully someone with an n86 can tell me what e drive is and maybe even
talk on skype to me or do me a step by step guide to finding where the contacts
are
Yvonne
----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 4:56 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
If you bought over your lisence from the person then surely you would be
able to upgrade to the latest version of Talks free of charge.
----- Original Message -----
From: yvonne oliver
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:35 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
hello Eleanor
it says talks 4.1.3
i was told that it had version 5 on it
however the seller is going to contact Steve knutt to clarify what
version he bought
in the meantime whenever i press that little rubber switch it don't do
anything that i know of
when i use the training mode talks does not announce this switch
i have found out what all the other buttons do and where they are
but that little rubber thing i at first thought was a rubber grommet
covering a socket but it is in fact a slide style button
Yvonne
----- Original Message -----
From: Eleanor Burke
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 3:20 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
Yvonne, not Carol but might that little rubber thing be a cover
either for the USB cable socket or indeed the memory card.
I noted you were saying something earlier about the Talks version.
Do you know what version of Talks you have and more to the point do you know
how to find out what version you have. You can go in to Talks by pressing the
Talks key and a long press of soft key one. Once you are at the speech tab in
talks press options and if you arrow up from the bottom you should come to
something that says About and if you select on that you will hear what version
of Talks you have.
Another thing you might like to do is to go in to Talks training mode
which is talks key followed by zero on the number pad and then you can move
around all the keys and hear what they do. I am thinking that on your phone
there may be a shortcut key to Contacts and you would discover it hopefully
this way. Talks training is a toggle so to turn it off you would press Talks
and the zero again.
Eleanor
----- Original Message -----
From: yvonne oliver
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:55 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
hello carol
thank you for email reply
u s b idea sound the better method but do i need to install the cd
that came with the handset?
and i have asked a couple of people but not yet got an answer
the question i asked them is what does that little rubber switch on
the left side of the casing for and what does it do?
as far as i can see it is the only thing down the left hand side of
the casing
Yvonne
----- Original Message -----
From: Carol Pearson
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:47 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
The memory card is particularly tricky to extract from the N86.
I think you're supposed to be able to push a switch to get it out but certainly
can't put it in without taking the back off; so I always remove the back if I
have to remove the card.
However, Eleanor is also right. If you have a USB cable and
these programmes for your phone, that's a better idea than removing the card.
She also right in that the File Manager does show you whether you
are looking at the card's contents or not, so give it a go!
--
Carol
carol.pearson29@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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---- Original Message ----
From: Eleanor Burke
To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 2:17 PM
Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
> I would suggest that in order to find what it is on your
> memory card you go to Menu and Office. In Office you
> should find File Manager and when you select File Manager
> you should have a choice of looking at files on the C
> Drive or the Memory Card. Failing this if you have a USB
> cable you could plug that in to the computer and the
> phone, that is to say if you have the right phone
> connection cable. this way you can then look at what is
> on your memory card.
>
> you do not have to start taking off the back of your
> phone, I am fairly sure to find the memory card. I would
> have thought it was accessable through the side of the
> phone. This is the case with all my phones where there
> is a little rubber flap which I can lift up with a finger
> nail (when I have a finger nail Lol!) and the memory card
> can be ejected by pushing it in which releases a tiny
> spring. However, a memory card is absolutely tiny and
> very thin too so you would need to take great care to
> ensure that you did not drop it. While I have some
> vision, I still like to remove the memory card while
> sitting at a table so that I can put it down exactly
> where I know it is. When replacing the memory card you
> again have to ensure that it goes in the correct way, the
> area which needs to connect with thephone going in first.
> I also had to get used to aligning it up correctly and
> then a gentle press with a tip of finger or fingernail
> until you can feel it slot back in to position.
>
> Eleanor
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: yvonne oliver
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:41 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
>
>
> hello Eleanor
> the reader is £75 so you are correct
> the reason i cant get to the sim and memory cards is
> because the back cover is different in fixing to other
> handsets
> all other handsets the back cover had a small button of
> which when pressed in allows the cover to slide down or
> up depending on removing or placing back on
> this one has a small groove under the bottom edge of the
> casing and i have no finger nails
>
> if i could find something that i can use in place of
> nails then i will be able to add remove or change the sim
> and memory cards
> why can't nokia leave things as they are
> why do they have to keep changing things around with each
> handset they release
> the charging unit has been changed as well
> first of it was a 3.5 mill jack plug this was changed to
> a 2.5 one and now it's of the u s b style type
>
>
> Yvonne
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eleanor Burke
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:31 PM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
>
>
> You are right phone switch is a more effecient means of
> transferring data from one phone to another. I would
> have thought that someone with an N86 could tell you how
> to get to phone switch. Phone switch does indeed use the
> Bluetooth mechanism for transferring data. I would have
> also thought you should be able to remove a memory card
> without sighted assistance but again I could be wrong.
> On all my phones I have no difficulty in removing a
> memory card but maybe you have dexterity problems.
> Someone should again be able to tell you the procedure
> for removing a memory card from the N86. Finally the OCR
> is Bayos or something like that, I have not got the
> spelling correct. It is a software package which can now
> be used on Mobile phones with Talks and costs in the
> region of £75 but again I can stand corrected.
>
> Eleanor
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: yvonne oliver
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:13 AM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
>
>
> I wonder did you use phone switch to copy your contacts.
>
> no i used the old fashioned blue tooth and the long
> winded way of opening text message and move to contacts
> list
> not sure what phone switch is
> but from what i can make out it is a quicker way of
> transferring data
> One way of knowing if they are on the memory card is to
> take out the memory card and see if they are there on the
> phone.
>
> for this i will need sighted assistance
> i can do that myself on my e90 but this handset is not so
> easy
> You might also like to take out your SIM card to check
> for certain in case they are on the SIM.
>
> again this would require sighted assistance but i will
> certainly see about those last two suggestions thank you.
> Are you talking about OCR technology? I am not sure.
> That is Optical Character Recognition which blind people
> use when scanning in a document (print) to read with a
> screen reader.
>
> i got an email from the previous owner he said this is
> something used to scan things like menu's in restaurants
> etcetera but he did not get on with it
> mind you i have not found anyone yet that has
> i also heard that this software is not all that reliable
> he did inform me that sight and sound do a version for
> £650
> not able to afford that unless i can get a grant or
> funding
> so once again thank you for your help
>
> Yvonne
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eleanor Burke
> To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:30 AM
> Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86
>
>
> I wonder did you use phone switch to copy your contacts.
> One way of knowing if they are on the memory card is to
> take out the memory card and see if they are there on the
> phone. You might also like to take out your SIM card to
> check for certain in case they are on the SIM. Are you
> talking about OCR technology? I am not sure. That is
> Optical Character Recognition which blind people use when
> scanning in a document (print) to read with a screen
> reader.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: yvonne oliver
> To: talks
> Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:58 AM
> Subject: [talks-uk] n86
>
>
> hi last night i copied my contacts from my e90 to the n86
> however i may of copied them to the memory card instead
> of the phone memory
> how do i tell where they are if they are on the memory
> card or the phone memory and how do i switch from one to
> the other?
> and of course if they are on the memory card how would i
> transfer them to the phone memory?
> and what is a o b c reader or whatever it is called what
> is it and what does it do
>
> Yvonne
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