hello graham thank you for email i did indeed purchase it second hand not sure what buy and sell group but it may of been the one i believe you own correct me if i am wrong in thinking you own one of the buy and sell sites the beyo reader i am told is not all that good anyway i have heard from other sources that it won't work properly i am currently awaiting a reply from the previous owner about talks versions he is going to contact Steve regarding the latest version he purchased all in all i think the n86 is a very good handset and the keys being raised are acceptable for both blind people and those with dexterity not sure on a few things yet though but as i ask questions on here they are getting answered Eleanor has solved 2 or 3 of my queries already and i only got the handset yesterday however perhaps you can tell me how to i tell if i am in the phone memory or the sd card memory? and how do i switch from one to the other i want to be in the phone memory when i press talks and the soft key 2 i am also informed that sight and sound or whoever they are do a better version of the beyo reader well so it should be better at £650 many thanks Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: Graham Longly To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 1:17 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 Hi Yvonne Steve Nutt will confirm this but I believe that the beyo CBS reader is tied to the sim card so if you've bought this secondhand with the phone it won't work with your sim card as it was licensed for the previous owner's sim and I don't think you can transfer it, you will have to buy a new copy. I think beyo is good for the money but the downside of it compared to the kurzweil reader and text scout is that you can't save what you have scanned. I am sure Steve will put me right if any of this is incorrect. Cheers! Graham ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:talks-uk-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of yvonne oliver Sent: 24 August 2010 12:41 To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 hello Eleanor the reader is £75 so you are correct the reason i cant get to the sim and memory cards is because the back cover is different in fixing to other handsets all other handsets the back cover had a small button of which when pressed in allows the cover to slide down or up depending on removing or placing back on this one has a small groove under the bottom edge of the casing and i have no finger nails if i could find something that i can use in place of nails then i will be able to add remove or change the sim and memory cards why can't nokia leave things as they are why do they have to keep changing things around with each handset they release the charging unit has been changed as well first of it was a 3.5 mill jack plug this was changed to a 2.5 one and now it's of the u s b style type Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: Eleanor Burke To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 12:31 PM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 You are right phone switch is a more effecient means of transferring data from one phone to another. I would have thought that someone with an N86 could tell you how to get to phone switch. Phone switch does indeed use the Bluetooth mechanism for transferring data. I would have also thought you should be able to remove a memory card without sighted assistance but again I could be wrong. On all my phones I have no difficulty in removing a memory card but maybe you have dexterity problems. Someone should again be able to tell you the procedure for removing a memory card from the N86. Finally the OCR is Bayos or something like that, I have not got the spelling correct. It is a software package which can now be used on Mobile phones with Talks and costs in the region of £75 but again I can stand corrected. Eleanor ----- Original Message ----- From: yvonne oliver To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 11:13 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 I wonder did you use phone switch to copy your contacts. no i used the old fashioned blue tooth and the long winded way of opening text message and move to contacts list not sure what phone switch is but from what i can make out it is a quicker way of transferring data One way of knowing if they are on the memory card is to take out the memory card and see if they are there on the phone. for this i will need sighted assistance i can do that myself on my e90 but this handset is not so easy You might also like to take out your SIM card to check for certain in case they are on the SIM. again this would require sighted assistance but i will certainly see about those last two suggestions thank you. Are you talking about OCR technology? I am not sure. That is Optical Character Recognition which blind people use when scanning in a document (print) to read with a screen reader. i got an email from the previous owner he said this is something used to scan things like menu's in restaurants etcetera but he did not get on with it mind you i have not found anyone yet that has i also heard that this software is not all that reliable he did inform me that sight and sound do a version for £650 not able to afford that unless i can get a grant or funding so once again thank you for your help Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: Eleanor Burke To: talks-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 10:30 AM Subject: [talks-uk] Re: n86 I wonder did you use phone switch to copy your contacts. One way of knowing if they are on the memory card is to take out the memory card and see if they are there on the phone. You might also like to take out your SIM card to check for certain in case they are on the SIM. Are you talking about OCR technology? I am not sure. That is Optical Character Recognition which blind people use when scanning in a document (print) to read with a screen reader. ----- Original Message ----- From: yvonne oliver To: talks Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 2010 9:58 AM Subject: [talks-uk] n86 hi last night i copied my contacts from my e90 to the n86 however i may of copied them to the memory card instead of the phone memory how do i tell where they are if they are on the memory card or the phone memory and how do i switch from one to the other? and of course if they are on the memory card how would i transfer them to the phone memory? and what is a o b c reader or whatever it is called what is it and what does it do Yvonne