[sib-access] Re: system breaks and question about chord symbols
- From: Kevin Gibbs <kevjazz@xxxxxx>
- To: "sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 11:43:59 -0500
To insert a system break, you need to be on the bar line itself.
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On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:21 AM, "Dave \"Farfar\" Carlson"
<dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I think that in order to insert a system break, you need to be on a note
> closest to the end of the bar. Even if a whole note in a 4/4 bar, it is the
> one to be selected. Then give Alt+Enter or Ctrl+Enter a try.
>
> The selection process for changing bars is very carefully explained in one
> of the Dan Rugman Tips and Tricks I've collected: Bar Lines.txt. Here is the
> text:
>
> Double bar lines are in fact system items and they will show up in the
> system items dialog. Just press Alt+F2, select the double bar line in the
> list and press Enter. You'll be put back in the score and the double bar
> line will be selected.
>
> To turn a double bar line back into a single bar line you only need to
> delete the double bar line. The original single bar line will be put back
> automatically.
>
> It's worth taking a minute to look at this more closely. The double bar line
> is in fact a "special" bar line which is defined by the user, instead of the
> normal "single" bar lines which Sibelius puts in automatically. If you
> remove a special bar line then the normal bar line is put back. You can hide
> the automatic bar lines completely if you want but this is only necessary
> for passages in "free time" where there is no time signature.
>
> Bar numbers work in a similar way. Sibelius draws these automatically and
> there options in the engraving rules dialog which control which bars have
> numbers drawn for them. The default is to draw a bar number above the first
> bar line on each system but you can change this to put a number above every
> 5th bar (or any other ordinal you choose).
>
> Sighted users can select the automatic bar lines and bar numbers and move
> them around with the mouse, but we can't select them by tabbing or through
> any plug-in. It is possible to select these items by using the advanced
> filters but the plug-in can't get any information about these items so
> you'll be essentially working in the dark.
>
> You can create a bar number change (which is a little like a special bar
> line). When you create a change, the bars which follow it will be renumbered
> starting from the change. You can select these bar number changes (which are
> system items) by using the system items dialog or through the advanced
> filters.
>
> In fact, if you have a piece with a pick-up bar, you will always see a bar
> number change in the first bar of the piece. The change in the first bar
> sets the bar number to 0 instead of 1, which is the default.
>
> Sibelius automatically draws the normal bar lines for you but you don't need
> to select any of these if you want a different bar line at the end of a bar.
> All you have to do is select the last note or rest in the bar and then
> create the bar line from the create menu.
>
> If you select the entire bar and then add the bar line it will be added
> before the start of the selection. You could do it this way but you'd have
> to select the bar which came after the double bar line.
>
> This rule applies to all types of bar lines.
>
> If you select a whole bar, the start repeat barline will be inserted before
> the selection. An end repeat barline will be inserted after the
> selection. With repeats Sibelius applies a logical rule. However it is true,
> that when the last note of a bar is selected, barlines are always inserted
> after the selected note. But you have to be careful, because if only one
> note is selected, Sibelius always puts the barline after the selected note,
> also then, when the note is not at the end of the bar; that means, that you
> can end up with a barline in midst of your bar.
>
> if you choose the first note of a bar and select
> from that first note to the beginning of the bar using the CTRL Shift left
> arrow, inserting a barline will place that barline at the beginning of the
> bar you're in, not in the midst of the bar after the first note.
>
> You don't need to select the bar line to create a break.
>
> 1. Select the entire bar (Ctrl+Shift+A).
> 2. Go to the properties window (Ctrl+Windows+Tab).
> 3. Go to the button which opens the bar panel (Ctrl+Tab)
> 4. Press the SpaceBar to open it.
> 5. Tab round to the list of break types.
> 6. Use the arrow keys to choose the break type you want.
>
> I've just added a feature that will tell you what type of break the current
> bar has, which should help a little with this.
>
> Dave Carlson
> Soon-to-be Oregonian, retired, full-time Farfar, musician, and woodworker
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Thomas Böttcher" <th.bottcher@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 5:13 AM
> Subject: [sib-access] system breaks and question about chord symbols
>
>
> Hi all,
> What is the correct way to insert a system break?
> I tried selecting the bar and hen went into the menu and to system break but
> got the message " please select a single note or chord" or something
> similar.
> I would like a new system every for bars and double bar lines with every
> rehearsal letter. Are these inserted automatically?
>
> Furthermore, I experience a strange thing inserting chord symbols:
> Using sib 3.1 and sib speaking I could always put a b to indicate a flat
> like Bb minor. Now, the capital B is written down correctly but when I put a
> small b to indicate a flat sibelius seems to put a different symbol. Has
> anybody else experienced that and is there maybe an alternative way to put a
> symbol to indicate a flat?
> Thanks so much for your help.
> Cheers
> Thomas
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