[sib-access] Re: system breaks and question about chord symbols
- From: saeed Mirzazadeh <saeedm19@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sat, 26 Apr 2014 16:03:07 +0200
Yes Dale. Thanks so much.
Best regards,
Saeed
On 4/26/14, Dale Lieser <dale.lieser@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Saeed,
>
> System breaks are for when you want the next measure to be on the next
> line.
> The concept does not involve space between staves.
>
> Within the Layout>Brakes menu, there is an item called "Split system",
> which
> puts a longer horizontal space between measures without advancing to the
> next line. A situation in which one might use split system is to visually
> separate a coda from what comes before it.
>
> Make sense?
>
> Dale
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of saeed Mirzazadeh
> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2014 9:39 AM
> To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [sib-access] Re: system breaks and question about chord symbols
>
> Hi all.
> I don't have almost nothing about system break and its advantage.
> Please let me know how may I get enough information about and how to
> use it via Sib-access. I suppose it would be very useful for adjusting
> spaces between the staves. Is that right?
> Thanks so much.
> Best regards,
> Saeed
>
> On 4/25/14, Dani L Pagador <axs.brl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Hi, Thomas.
>> From the Sib Access Archive:
>>
>> <snip>
>> "You don't need to select the bar line to create a break.
>>
>> 1. Select the entire bar (Ctrl+Shift+A).
>> 2. Go to the properties window (Ctrl+Windows+Tab).
>> 3. Go to the button which opens the bar panel (Ctrl+Tab)
>> 4. Press the SpaceBar to open it.
>> 5. Tab round to the list of break types.
>> 6. Use the arrow keys to choose the break type you want. <end>
>>
>> HTH,
>> Dani
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:sib-access-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Thomas Böttcher
>> Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 7:52 AM
>> To: sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [sib-access] Re: system breaks and question about chord symbols
>>
>> But how can I move to the bar line greetings Thomas
>>
>> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
>>
>>> Op 25-apr.-2014 om 18:43 heeft Kevin Gibbs <kevjazz@xxxxxx> het volgende
>>> geschreven:
>>>
>>> To insert a system break, you need to be on the bar line itself.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:21 AM, "Dave \"Farfar\" Carlson"
>>>> <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I think that in order to insert a system break, you need to be on a
>>>> note closest to the end of the bar. Even if a whole note in a 4/4
>>>> bar, it is the one to be selected. Then give Alt+Enter or Ctrl+Enter a
>>>> try.
>>>>
>>>> The selection process for changing bars is very carefully explained
>>>> in one of the Dan Rugman Tips and Tricks I've collected: Bar
>>>> Lines.txt. Here is the
>>>> text:
>>>>
>>>> Double bar lines are in fact system items and they will show up in
>>>> the system items dialog. Just press Alt+F2, select the double bar
>>>> line in the list and press Enter. You'll be put back in the score and
>>>> the double bar line will be selected.
>>>>
>>>> To turn a double bar line back into a single bar line you only need
>>>> to delete the double bar line. The original single bar line will be
>>>> put back automatically.
>>>>
>>>> It's worth taking a minute to look at this more closely. The double
>>>> bar line is in fact a "special" bar line which is defined by the
>>>> user, instead of the normal "single" bar lines which Sibelius puts in
>>>> automatically. If you remove a special bar line then the normal bar
>>>> line is put back. You can hide the automatic bar lines completely if
>>>> you want but this is only necessary for passages in "free time" where
>>>> there is no time signature.
>>>>
>>>> Bar numbers work in a similar way. Sibelius draws these automatically
>>>> and there options in the engraving rules dialog which control which
>>>> bars have numbers drawn for them. The default is to draw a bar number
>>>> above the first bar line on each system but you can change this to
>>>> put a number above every 5th bar (or any other ordinal you choose).
>>>>
>>>> Sighted users can select the automatic bar lines and bar numbers and
>>>> move them around with the mouse, but we can't select them by tabbing
>>>> or through any plug-in. It is possible to select these items by using
>>>> the advanced filters but the plug-in can't get any information about
>>>> these items so you'll be essentially working in the dark.
>>>>
>>>> You can create a bar number change (which is a little like a special
>>>> bar line). When you create a change, the bars which follow it will be
>>>> renumbered starting from the change. You can select these bar number
>>>> changes (which are system items) by using the system items dialog or
>>>> through the advanced filters.
>>>>
>>>> In fact, if you have a piece with a pick-up bar, you will always see
>>>> a bar number change in the first bar of the piece. The change in the
>>>> first bar sets the bar number to 0 instead of 1, which is the default.
>>>>
>>>> Sibelius automatically draws the normal bar lines for you but you
>>>> don't need to select any of these if you want a different bar line at
> the
>>>> end of a bar.
>>>> All you have to do is select the last note or rest in the bar and
>>>> then create the bar line from the create menu.
>>>>
>>>> If you select the entire bar and then add the bar line it will be
>>>> added before the start of the selection. You could do it this way but
>>>> you'd have to select the bar which came after the double bar line.
>>>>
>>>> This rule applies to all types of bar lines.
>>>>
>>>> If you select a whole bar, the start repeat barline will be inserted
>>>> before the selection. An end repeat barline will be inserted after
>>>> the selection. With repeats Sibelius applies a logical rule. However
>>>> it is true, that when the last note of a bar is selected, barlines
>>>> are always inserted after the selected note. But you have to be
>>>> careful, because if only one note is selected, Sibelius always puts
>>>> the barline after the selected note, also then, when the note is not
>>>> at the end of the bar; that means, that you can end up with a barline
>>>> in
>>>> midst of your bar.
>>>>
>>>> if you choose the first note of a bar and select from that first note
>>>> to the beginning of the bar using the CTRL Shift left arrow,
>>>> inserting a barline will place that barline at the beginning of the
>>>> bar you're in, not in the midst of the bar after the first note.
>>>>
>>>> You don't need to select the bar line to create a break.
>>>>
>>>> 1. Select the entire bar (Ctrl+Shift+A).
>>>> 2. Go to the properties window (Ctrl+Windows+Tab).
>>>> 3. Go to the button which opens the bar panel (Ctrl+Tab) 4. Press the
>>>> SpaceBar to open it.
>>>> 5. Tab round to the list of break types.
>>>> 6. Use the arrow keys to choose the break type you want.
>>>>
>>>> I've just added a feature that will tell you what type of break the
>>>> current bar has, which should help a little with this.
>>>>
>>>> Dave Carlson
>>>> Soon-to-be Oregonian, retired, full-time Farfar, musician, and
>>>> woodworker
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Thomas Böttcher" <th.bottcher@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 5:13 AM
>>>> Subject: [sib-access] system breaks and question about chord symbols
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> What is the correct way to insert a system break?
>>>> I tried selecting the bar and hen went into the menu and to system
>>>> break but got the message " please select a single note or chord" or
>>>> something similar.
>>>> I would like a new system every for bars and double bar lines with
>>>> every rehearsal letter. Are these inserted automatically?
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore, I experience a strange thing inserting chord symbols:
>>>> Using sib 3.1 and sib speaking I could always put a b to indicate a
>>>> flat like Bb minor. Now, the capital B is written down correctly but
>>>> when I put a small b to indicate a flat sibelius seems to put a
>>>> different symbol. Has anybody else experienced that and is there
>>>> maybe an alternative way to put a symbol to indicate a flat?
>>>> Thanks so much for your help.
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Thomas
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