[sib-access] Re: system breaks and question about chord symbols
- From: "Dani L Pagador" <axs.brl@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 25 Apr 2014 09:16:22 -1000
Hi, Thomas.
From the Sib Access Archive:
<snip>
"You don't need to select the bar line to create a break.
1. Select the entire bar (Ctrl+Shift+A).
2. Go to the properties window (Ctrl+Windows+Tab).
3. Go to the button which opens the bar panel (Ctrl+Tab)
4. Press the SpaceBar to open it.
5. Tab round to the list of break types.
6. Use the arrow keys to choose the break type you want. <end>
HTH,
Dani
-----Original Message-----
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On Behalf Of Thomas Böttcher
Sent: Friday, April 25, 2014 7:52 AM
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Subject: [sib-access] Re: system breaks and question about chord symbols
But how can I move to the bar line greetings Thomas
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
> Op 25-apr.-2014 om 18:43 heeft Kevin Gibbs <kevjazz@xxxxxx> het volgende
> geschreven:
>
> To insert a system break, you need to be on the bar line itself.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Apr 13, 2014, at 9:21 AM, "Dave \"Farfar\" Carlson"
>> <dgcarlson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> I think that in order to insert a system break, you need to be on a
>> note closest to the end of the bar. Even if a whole note in a 4/4
>> bar, it is the one to be selected. Then give Alt+Enter or Ctrl+Enter a try.
>>
>> The selection process for changing bars is very carefully explained
>> in one of the Dan Rugman Tips and Tricks I've collected: Bar
>> Lines.txt. Here is the
>> text:
>>
>> Double bar lines are in fact system items and they will show up in
>> the system items dialog. Just press Alt+F2, select the double bar
>> line in the list and press Enter. You'll be put back in the score and
>> the double bar line will be selected.
>>
>> To turn a double bar line back into a single bar line you only need
>> to delete the double bar line. The original single bar line will be
>> put back automatically.
>>
>> It's worth taking a minute to look at this more closely. The double
>> bar line is in fact a "special" bar line which is defined by the
>> user, instead of the normal "single" bar lines which Sibelius puts in
>> automatically. If you remove a special bar line then the normal bar
>> line is put back. You can hide the automatic bar lines completely if
>> you want but this is only necessary for passages in "free time" where there
>> is no time signature.
>>
>> Bar numbers work in a similar way. Sibelius draws these automatically
>> and there options in the engraving rules dialog which control which
>> bars have numbers drawn for them. The default is to draw a bar number
>> above the first bar line on each system but you can change this to
>> put a number above every 5th bar (or any other ordinal you choose).
>>
>> Sighted users can select the automatic bar lines and bar numbers and
>> move them around with the mouse, but we can't select them by tabbing
>> or through any plug-in. It is possible to select these items by using
>> the advanced filters but the plug-in can't get any information about
>> these items so you'll be essentially working in the dark.
>>
>> You can create a bar number change (which is a little like a special
>> bar line). When you create a change, the bars which follow it will be
>> renumbered starting from the change. You can select these bar number
>> changes (which are system items) by using the system items dialog or
>> through the advanced filters.
>>
>> In fact, if you have a piece with a pick-up bar, you will always see
>> a bar number change in the first bar of the piece. The change in the
>> first bar sets the bar number to 0 instead of 1, which is the default.
>>
>> Sibelius automatically draws the normal bar lines for you but you
>> don't need to select any of these if you want a different bar line at the
>> end of a bar.
>> All you have to do is select the last note or rest in the bar and
>> then create the bar line from the create menu.
>>
>> If you select the entire bar and then add the bar line it will be
>> added before the start of the selection. You could do it this way but
>> you'd have to select the bar which came after the double bar line.
>>
>> This rule applies to all types of bar lines.
>>
>> If you select a whole bar, the start repeat barline will be inserted
>> before the selection. An end repeat barline will be inserted after
>> the selection. With repeats Sibelius applies a logical rule. However
>> it is true, that when the last note of a bar is selected, barlines
>> are always inserted after the selected note. But you have to be
>> careful, because if only one note is selected, Sibelius always puts
>> the barline after the selected note, also then, when the note is not
>> at the end of the bar; that means, that you can end up with a barline in
>> midst of your bar.
>>
>> if you choose the first note of a bar and select from that first note
>> to the beginning of the bar using the CTRL Shift left arrow,
>> inserting a barline will place that barline at the beginning of the
>> bar you're in, not in the midst of the bar after the first note.
>>
>> You don't need to select the bar line to create a break.
>>
>> 1. Select the entire bar (Ctrl+Shift+A).
>> 2. Go to the properties window (Ctrl+Windows+Tab).
>> 3. Go to the button which opens the bar panel (Ctrl+Tab) 4. Press the
>> SpaceBar to open it.
>> 5. Tab round to the list of break types.
>> 6. Use the arrow keys to choose the break type you want.
>>
>> I've just added a feature that will tell you what type of break the
>> current bar has, which should help a little with this.
>>
>> Dave Carlson
>> Soon-to-be Oregonian, retired, full-time Farfar, musician, and
>> woodworker
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Thomas Böttcher" <th.bottcher@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <sib-access@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Sunday, April 13, 2014 5:13 AM
>> Subject: [sib-access] system breaks and question about chord symbols
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>> What is the correct way to insert a system break?
>> I tried selecting the bar and hen went into the menu and to system
>> break but got the message " please select a single note or chord" or
>> something similar.
>> I would like a new system every for bars and double bar lines with
>> every rehearsal letter. Are these inserted automatically?
>>
>> Furthermore, I experience a strange thing inserting chord symbols:
>> Using sib 3.1 and sib speaking I could always put a b to indicate a
>> flat like Bb minor. Now, the capital B is written down correctly but
>> when I put a small b to indicate a flat sibelius seems to put a
>> different symbol. Has anybody else experienced that and is there
>> maybe an alternative way to put a symbol to indicate a flat?
>> Thanks so much for your help.
>> Cheers
>> Thomas
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