Hi, XL, If you want to convert S-matrix into a spice simulator, a lot of commercial software can do that--that's the simplest way. However, it is possible for yourself to make a equivalent subcircuit which can include the timing and frequency info and then import to a spice like simulator. Here are some application notes: http://wwwinfo.cern.ch/ce/ae/Maxwell/apps/2stripem/2stripem.html If you want to get involved in more details, I remembered that somebody did his Ph.D work on this in UIUC around early 1990s'. Xin Wu Ph.D student, University of Maryland, College Park Http://www.wam.umd.edu/~xwu >From: "Scott McMorrow" <scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Reply-To: scott@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >To: xlzhou@xxxxxxxxx >CC: "'si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> >Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: (no subject) >Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2002 13:45:41 -0800 > > >Mick, > >There are two solutions which I use: > >1) Apache Nspice is an Hspice compatabible simulator that can >co-simulate with Touchstone S-parameter files. >http://www.apache-da.com/ > >2) Sigrity BroadBand Spice can convert Touchstone s-parameter files into >spice black boxes. >http://www.sigrity.com/ > >Both are scary accurate in both the frequency and time domain. > >regards, > >scott > >-- >Scott McMorrow >Teraspeed Consulting Group LLC >2926 SE Yamhill St. >Portland, OR 97214 >(503) 239-5536 >http://www.teraspeed.com > > >Zhou, Xingling (Mick) wrote: > > >Hello, > > > >Did anybody successfully generate broadband (DC-20GHz) SPICE model from S > >matrix for complex structures using the SPICE generator in ADS ? Or any > >other alternatives. I know Ansoft fullwave SPICE does the work. > >Unfortunately, some circuit simulators do not support the frequency > >dependent lookup table sources. We can definitely use [S] directly, but >some > >users still prefer SPICE models. Any experience to share ? > > > >Thanks, > > > >Xingling(Mick) Zhou, PhD > >Signal Integrity Technologist > >Agere Systems > > > >Tel: 610-712-7462 > >Fax: 610-712-4081 > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > >To unsubscribe from si-list: > >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > > > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: > >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > > > >For help: > >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > > > >List archives are viewable at: > > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list > >or at our remote archives: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages > >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ >To unsubscribe from si-list: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field > >or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: >//www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list > >For help: >si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field > >List archives are viewable at: > //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list >or at our remote archives: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages >Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: > http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu > _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu