Mike, I was watching this conversation closely. First, since I agree that C_comp is one of the most neglected areas in the IBIS spec., I would be interested in seeing your suggested improvements on that. Second, I am involved with some internal activities in which we are working towards modeling improvements to satisfy our and our customer's modeling needs. This is all happening now because of the new capabilities in the IBIS 4.1 specification through the new language extensions (VHDL-AMS and Verilog-AMS). With these extensions most of the limitations and rigidities of the old IBIS specification has been removed and it is up to the model writer now to make sure that the model is accurate enough. We can't say any more that IBIS is not capable of this and that, or not accurate, etc... It is now entirely up to the model maker to come up with a model that is accurate enough for their needs. The question now is how do we write our models and make them accurate enough for their purpose. There is a lot to learn in this respect, and I am keeping my eyes open. I would like to encourage any contribution in this respect in any forum, such as these email discussion groups, IBIS summits, and the like. Thanks, Arpad Muranyi Intel Corporation =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D -----Original Message----- From: si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:si-list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of MikonCons@xxxxxxx Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 2:20 PM To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [SI-LIST] Re: Tools to Create IBIS Models In a message dated 3/21/2004 5:11:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,=20 bob@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: The next IBIS Summit Meeting is on Monday, April 5 at DesignCon East. Several people who cannot travel to DesignCon are teleconferencing in their presentations. This is short notice, but you are welcome to create a 10-20 page presentation and deliver it at this meeting. ************** Bob: Thanks for the invite, but I have too many things on my plate at the = moment=20 to support the DesignCon East timetable. At this point, I have not yet = prepared=20 the associated slides for an in-person presentation, and I'm thinking of = adding some more complex models and simulations to the paper to = illustrate the=20 ease of inserting coupled package pins and coupled T-lines for = end-to-end model=20 analysis. Perhaps we can work out a meeting later this year. Mike Michael L. Conn Owner/Principal Consultant Mikon Consulting ------------------------------------------------------------------ To unsubscribe from si-list: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the Subject field or to administer your membership from a web page, go to: //www.freelists.org/webpage/si-list For help: si-list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'help' in the Subject field List FAQ wiki page is located at: http://si-list.org/wiki/wiki.pl List technical documents are available at: http://www.si-list.org List archives are viewable at: //www.freelists.org/archives/si-list or at our remote archives: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/si-list/messages Old (prior to June 6, 2001) list archives are viewable at: http://www.qsl.net/wb6tpu