[SI-LIST] Re: Tools to Create IBIS Models

  • From: MikonCons@xxxxxxx
  • To: si-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2004 16:35:44 EST

Good comment, Andy. I totally agree.
I presented one paper at DesignCon 2004 this year on the use of Laplacian 
based Coupled T-line models (in SPICE format) that was well received; however, 
another paper I submitted on converting IBIS model data to SPICE models was 
rejected. My conversion technique added dynamic conversion of driver output 
capcitance and receiver input capacitance as a function of the instantaneous 
T-line 
voltage, which is more accurate than the current IBIS model format. I also 
allowed coupled package leads and I/O intefaces to be easily incorporated into 
the model. Further, the conversion process identifies when a published IBIS 
model is deficient or inconsistent.

I have had independent reviewers indicate the paper as a major step forward; 
however, I suspect the rejection was because there are many IBIS model (and 
EDA) vendors who financially support the conference that would have been 
displeased with the paper. That is, it was not "politically correct." I am 
considering submitting the paper to a magazine, but they have the same EDA 
vendor (paid 
advertising) barrier.

If one can afford the time to run SPICE models, do it. If time-to-market is 
so critical that minutes or hours of schedule are detrimental, one may opt to 
take chances with IBIS models and cross their fingers. If a company chooses to 
publish IBIS models instead of SPICE models, they need to do a thorough and 
accurate job of it to gain respect. The option is to require a non-disclosure 
agreement for SPICE models instead.

I haven't the time for another lengthy thread of comments, so I hope this 
note doesn't ruffle too many feathers.

Mike

Michael L. Conn
Owner/Principal Consultant
Mikon Consulting
Cell: 408-821-9843

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