[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: - the other White decision "Ponder this"
- From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: "marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 14:39:05 -0700 (PDT)
Ido not know what the correct thing to do with the white GSD but here are facts
of what
Stephanitz wrote in German Shepherd Dog in Word and Picture in the First
American addition
printed and translated in Germany. So if you consider all the facts below
to remove the white GSD from AKC would be a mistake for all the linebred-inbred
pups
that go back to AXEL VON DER DEININGHAUSERHEIDE. Breeders are going to get
an occasional white pup it will happen since it is in the genes. As in Germany
and Austria of what I was told they gave the off-color pups away years ago and
got
the sold the source sire to other countries.
As written by Stephanitz in his book written in Germany...
"Although I stated in the first chapter that a dog's
colour is without any significance from the point of view of work, when judging
him it cannot be completely disregarded. However, the judge should not be
influenced by any artistic
consideration but by the fact that a clear and strong colouring points to a
healthy and hardy physical condition of the dog. Any decline in the strength of
the original colour, called fading, is at the same time an urgent warning of
physical weakness and lack of power resistance, especially towards diseases.
Whilst an intensification of dark colour is, first and foremost the outcome of
selective breeding, paling is mostly a sign of wrong breeding or
overbreeding. For this reason the bearers
of such colours must be considered less suitable for breeding purposes. With
dogs, however, who have been bred to
white colour, where the pigmentation has been retained by the skin, it is not a
sign of paling
but of breed. This, however, applied only to other breeds:
for shepherd-dogs, both smooth and rough haired, white is forbidden and only
allowed for shaggy haired ones as the descendants of the old sheep dogs bred
for white."
AXEL VON DER DEININGHAUSERHEIDE carried the faded gene which
has passed down through sons Troll vom Richterbach and Watzer von Bad Melle in
USA. Axel is probably the number one dog
in the background of the faded color and white GSD's here. I know there are
others but of the pedigrees
I have researched the most popular lines are their descendents Lance and Brend
seem to be there the most bringing it up today.
The Nazi's I was told by German family members that the
Nazi's liked the rich colors not white or paling GSD's. My aunt left Austria
with her GSD's as did my
grandparents and my great-grandma while my great-grandfather stayed behind as
the Nazi's took over his home as a headquarters. There were many very good
GSD's lost through the war which
did leave a large impact on the breed.
Theresa
From: Carolyn Martello <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: - the other White decision
Since the white Shepherd has been a DQ for many, many years....and has NEVER
been a 'desirable' part of the Standard for the German Shepherd Dog it seems
it has been the decision of those who continue breeding them to have to deal
with the problems that exist with that decision....just as it does with any
other DQ in any Breed Standard.
Why not let them "go" off into their own Breed and gain their own glory as a
very beautiful White breed of dog like others have? There are many white
breeders that DO prefer that...and many that breed according to the our AKC
Standard that DO prefer that. It's the best possible solution rather than
risk destroying our Parent Club over another 'war'....
AKC will work it out in the most fair way possible once we give them the
permission to separate. You KNOW AKC is not going to lose the revenue from
those that are already Registered!! They will have a method as they do for
any 'new' breed that originated from another. There are quite a few "white"
Breeds that we now know ..and are highly respected that came from separation
from another Breed Standard.
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
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