Ok I thought I wrote it was not a color before as von Stephanitz mentions it is. I then made a mistake rewriting it was not. I will wait to post to my TV show is over. It is a color as I see it but as he writes retained by the skin I believe he was referring to not pale color. Theresa ________________________________ From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx> To: "AGray40366@xxxxxxx" <AGray40366@xxxxxxx> Cc: "Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 6:39 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: - the other White decision "Ponder this" Now I am confused as I do not see that von Stephanitz does not say it is a color. "white colour, where the pigmentation has been retained by the skin" Theresa ________________________________ From: "AGray40366@xxxxxxx" <AGray40366@xxxxxxx> To: scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx Cc: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 6:11 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: - the other White decision "Ponder this" Am I confused or is white still a color? my brother put siding on his house, white, the contractor wanted to interest him a colored trim, he kept saying 'white is a color" He could be wrong, but as a nurse the only color uniform we used to be allowed to wear was white, 'florence nightengale thought it was a color, I know what people mean when they say a white shirt, if it isn't a rich pristine white, what color is it? can't white be rich color Ann In a message dated 8/3/2013 4:39:30 P.M. Central Daylight Time, scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx writes: As written by Stephanitz in his book written in Germany... "Although I stated in the first chapter that a dog's colour is without any significance from the point of view of work, when judging him it cannot be completely disregarded. However, the judge should not be influenced by any artistic consideration but by the fact that a clear and strong colouring points to a healthy and hardy physical condition of the dog. Any decline in the strength of the original colour, called fading, is at the same time an urgent warning of physical weakness and lack of power resistance, especially towards diseases. Whilst an intensification of dark colour is, first and foremost the outcome of selective breeding, paling is mostly a sign of wrong breeding or overbreeding. For this reason the bearers of such colours must be considered less suitable for breeding purposes. With dogs, however, who have been bred to white colour, where the pigmentation has been retained by the skin, it is not a sign of paling but of breed. This, however, applied only to other breeds: for shepherd-dogs, both smooth and rough haired, white is forbidden and only allowed for shaggy haired ones as the descendants of the old sheep dogs bred for white." ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org/ SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ÿÿ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================