The white coated dog showed up to the 50s alongside their colored counterparts and there were whites that were AKC champions so your NEVER desirable is not correct. The original GSD standard allowed whites, it wasn't until politics and misconception came along that they became a DQ. As I stated before, this decision should be about what is best for the breed, not what happens in the show ring. I don't know why any breed would want to remove part of its gene pool due to a coat color? The GSD is riddled with health issues, why not have its full gene pool to work with? The conformation folks are a small minority of the GSDCA so why are decisions always made in terms of the show ring? Maybe it's time to cater to the majority of the membership and what's best for the breed as a whole. Donna Beadle eclipsekennels.com Bodied Msg: #6 in digest From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: - the other White decision Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2013 11:32:05 -0700 Since the white Shepherd has been a DQ for many, many years....and has NEVER been a 'desirable' part of the Standard for the German Shepherd Dog it seems it has been the decision of those who continue breeding them to have to deal with the problems that exist with that decision....just as it does with any other DQ in any Breed Standard. Why not let them "go" off into their own Breed and gain their own glory as a very beautiful White breed of dog like others have? There are many white breeders that DO prefer that...and many that breed according to the our AKC Standard that DO prefer that. It's the best possible solution rather than risk destroying our Parent Club over another 'war'.... AKC will work it out in the most fair way possible once we give them the permission to separate. You KNOW AKC is not going to lose the revenue from those that are already Registered!! They will have a method as they do for any 'new' breed that originated from another. There are quite a few "white" Breeds that we now know ..and are highly respected that came from separation from another Breed Standard. I really don't think this is comparable to two brown eyed people having a blue eyed child?? Nor does it matter how the UKC handles their Standard. ( "pale, washed out colors" could be almost ANY interpretation in the hands of many judges.....I don't see that as "pretty neat and simple" ) Personally I LOVE the GSD Standard and the Breed AS IT IS. Those who prefer whites could tinker with their own Standard any way they preferred as a specific respected Breed. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================