1. There is a problem with many judges incorrectly doing the test- some of our National judges have been talked to at the National about how they were incorrectly doing the exam . How can we expect an all breed judge to do it correctly? 2. Some judges are stalking the dogs. 3. A few judges don't fault the dogs when they shy. 4. The public perception at all breed shows is negative, if you don't believe me talk to your friends in other breeds. What can be done to correct the situations above? The amount of conversation on the list and at our last Board meeting indicates that a change is needed. Are there any suggestions on how we can get a more uniform exam, put teeth into the results, prevent stalking and thereby improve the breed. Should the exam be dropped at the all breed shows? Kris ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================