[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: re health and genetics question

  • From: Terry Cochran <terrycochran97756@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx" <Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2013 07:14:28 -0700

I believe we started this string because of the low entries didn't we? It went 
from there to the breed is dying and the All Breed exhibitors do not like 
specialty folks or their dogs. 

I would like to point out that entries are dropping in both rings.
The average age of the  exhibitors  is older than dirt.
The exhibitors are dying off faster than the dogs
It isn't much fun to spend twice the money to beat 1/3 of the dogs it use to to 
make a major.
The dogs do have health issues but I have never met a breeders who did a 
breeding to see what kind of nightmare he could create.

I do know one thing in the few breedings I have done. When you outcross 
American to German you are hoping to create a healthier dog but you are only 
guessing about one side of the pedigree because you will not  know the health 
history of one side. If you line breed on the American side with an outcross 
you will get all of your old problems back. 
One of my favorite breeding was Hermine to Ruff . The last of those is still 
going strong at 14 years. She can still jump on the grooming table still goes 
for her mile walks. Her sister died of mesentric torsion at 6. tell me was that 
a good or a bad breeding? Do I ditch the son of that pairing because his one 
aunt died early. How about all the others that lived past 12? 

In truth we can only do the best we can. 

Terry who only breeds for herself


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On Jun 16, 2013, at 4:27 AM, Mike & Sheila Metz <Lindenhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> 
wrote:

> Sometimes, I am surprised that the opinion of some folks is that there 
> is a plethora of breeders out there that could give a Rats Ass about the 
> longevity of our beloved breed.
> Most of those that I have met in the breed who have been breeders for 
> many years, are concerned about the total dog. There are a few, as 
> Sheila says, short cutters who are just in it to win it
> I would say very few. None the less they are out there.
> 
> If your paying attention I don't think its that difficult to avoid the 
> "short cutters"
> 
> Right now I'm observing the machine like effort with interest to build 
> the reputation of another young male out there who has already reliably 
> rumored to have had several disastrous litters....
> Of course, as they say, it takes two to tango
> 
> M
> 
> On 6/16/2013 5:58 AM, Mike & Sheila Metz wrote:
>> On 6/15/2013 9:20 PM, Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm wrote:
>>> My intention is not to offend anyone but let people know there are more 
>>> GSD's dying out there to diseases than most
>>> ssem to believe.
>>> 
>>> Theresa
>> I'm curious Theresa, just exactly where is the evidence you have to
>> support that statement?
>> 
>> I would like to get your thoughts on these questions for a moment,
>> 
>>  1. Why do canines have litters, and not singletons?
>>  2. Why are canines capable of having two or more litters in a year?
>>  3. Why do canines have such short gestation periods?
>> 
>> As much as we may try , sometimes you just can't mess with Mother
>> Nature(Laws of Nature)
>> 
>> M
>> 
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