[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Rights and Wrong and in between

  • From: Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 13:42:33 -0700 (PDT)

As for me I would not go American stud but would cross to a German
GSD stud with lines I knew for years of research had sound health, temperament
and could obtain what I was looking for.  Just because they might be a
German GSD this does not mean all is good with that GSD either if you
do not know their bloodline history.  :-) 
Years ago and still today a few breeders are still doing it with great success. 
Anytime you continue line-breeding or inbreeding off only certain bloodlines
it will come back to haunt you in the future. 
I love both the American or German show dogs as well as the working dog, as 
there are still many of both
out there that live long healthy lives. It does not matter if it is German or 
American
bred to me.  I like the look of certain GSD's back in the 50's and 60's but 
that does not mean I can not appreciate
the GSD's of today.  I just would like to see the GSD to be a joy to it's owner 
or breeder for lots of years to come
and not be gone or suffer a short life with health or temperament issues. 
Theresa
 

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 From: "cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 3:38 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Rights and Wrong and in between
  

Theresa-GSD Stolz writes:  "In all these pedigrees I have with dogs passing 
away to Hemangiosarcoma the below dogs
are in their pedigrees over and over again."


If you are a breeder, where do you go to find a *contemporary" American stud 
without at least one of these dogs in the pedigree?  I'm not trying to be 
argumentative;  I'd really like to know.


PaulETTE McGuirt, GSDCA Member
Wellborn-Allemande German Shepherds
Qui Me Amat, Amat et Canem Meam

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From: "Theresa-GSD Stolz-Scenecrest Farm" <scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 10:33 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Rights and Wrong and in between


Unless your GSDÂ you decide to breed does not carry the below GSD's in their 
pedigree
there is no way to avoid the past as it will always repeat itself. As we all 
know these
dogs are repeated numerous times in our GSD's pedigree. It has nothing to do
with show dogs as every living GSD goes back to the beginning of the breed if
there were no other breeds involved along the line. It has everything to do 
with health
and sound temperament which you need to avoid doubling-tripling up of GSD's 
that carried it on 
through their genes to present time. Even if you think you outcross does not 
make a difference since you are
still linebreeding if these GSD's are in the background several times.
 
In all these pedigrees I have with dogs passing away to Hemangiosarcoma the 
below dogs
are in their pedigrees over and over again. The males were also noted by others 
of
having dogs with other cancers, EPI, Digestive-Bloat problems, Cryptorchidism.
Several of the below GSDâ?Ts had fear aggression and unstable temperament 
issues too.
Rosel vom Osnabrücker Land
Axel von der Deininghauser Heide
Utz vom Haus Schütting
Hussan vom Haus Schütting
Klodo vom Boxberg
Erich von Grafenwerth
Alex vom Westfalenheim
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