[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Movement vs temperament
- From: Lyn Chernak <cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 05:44:07 -0700 (PDT)
I am very glad to hear that people did not take LaMar seriously and introduce
this theory into their breeding programs. Theoretically speaking, if they did,
the first two sire and dams would have an unsound dog in the third, sixth and
ninth generation, then line breeding and maybe an in-breeding would just give
you a bunch of beautiful moving dogs that fly around the ring and would keep on
going if they ever got loose! (Keeping in mind, I am only talking about
movement vs temperament in my hypothetical example, not even addressing
structure or health.) When I was a newbie, I often wondered when I would hear
such statements made by those well known and in the breed for many years, if
others would really take them seriously or figure out the long term effects and
understand the dark-sided humor that went with the comment.
Lyn Chernak
~ CherLyn Shepherds http://www.cherlynshepherds.com~
Three Generations ~ GSDCA 13 Club ~ Membership
CherLyn's Dixie, BH, CDX, RAE, TC, HIC, CGC
Ulric vom Kriegerhaus, RN, TC, CGC
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From: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
To: cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sun, March 28, 2010 7:44:06 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Movement vs temperament
I'm sure it wasn't meant as a formula.
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)
In a message dated 3/27/2010 11:35:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx writes:
Ok, since that is a true statement, was it meant to be used as a quick fix
for movement or as a breeding tool? Was the 3rd generation spook suppose
to be on the sire's side or the dam's? Taking this a step further (no pun
intended) what would happen if the spook was on both sides and then line-bred
or in-bred?
I agree with you that sound dogs can get bored and not perform. And yes
it stings to be beat by an "unsound dog".
Lyn Chernak
~ CherLyn Shepherds ~
Three Generations ~ GSDCA 13 Club ~ Membership
CherLyn's Dixie, BH, CDX, RAE, TC, HIC, CGC
Ulric vom Kriegerhaus, RN, TC, CGC
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From: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx" <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx>
To: cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sat, March 27, 2010 9:52:38 PM
Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Movement vs temperament
I head it first hand...Lamar said that. Actually, he said it in a few
different ways. He'd say a spook showed better than a confident dog. In fact,
we have it on tape somewhere...
I guess there's some merit...I've had and have confident dogs who love to
show.
I've also had confident dogs who got bored and didn't "perform" (i.e. race
around as if the devil himself was after them) get beat by dogs you'd need
a butterfly net to catch when the class was over.
That kind of loss stings...BUT, I have to live with my dogs and when I
breed a litter to keep one back for myself, the dogs I don't keep end up on
some child's bed...so they need to be wrapped tight.
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
visit _http://www.pinehillgsds.com/_ (http://www.pinehillgsds.com/)
In a message dated 3/27/2010 7:19:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx writes:
Since I did not hear this first hand, I will not mention names. What I did
hear was, that back about 20 years ago a well known handler had said that
in order to get a better mover, every 3rd generation you need to put a
spook into your breeding program. My question is; if this was actually said
and
practiced, did this theory prove to be true? Was the impact on movement
worth the impact on temperament?
Lyn Chernak
~ CherLyn Shepherds ~
Three Generations ~ GSDCA 13 Club ~ Membership
CherLyn's Dixie, BH, CDX, RAE, TC, HIC, CGC
Ulric vom Kriegerhaus, RN, TC, CGC
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