[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Movement vs temperament

  • From: "pmick12" <pmick12@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 09:09:21 -0400

I seriously doubt that Lamar meant people to use spooks in their breeding 
programs.

      Quite a few of us have copies of the "Lamar tapes."   He does talk 
about spooks on those tapes, but I don't remember him advocating using them 
in a breeding program.   He also says that any spook, any dog, could be 
trained to pass a temperament test, but that that wouldn't mean the dog had 
a good temperament.

   It's very possible that Lamar didn't say "never use a spook," which I'm 
sure has been mis-translated into "use a spook".....in fact, it's likely he 
made some comment about how using a spook (without saying "do it") might 
make the next generation appear to have more "attitude" --  I'd have to dig 
the tapes out and watch them again (for the thousandth time).

   Whether or not you were one of the man's fans, you have to give him 
credit as a true student of the breed who also loved the breed...personally 
I don't remember him being fond of spooky dogs for any purpose at all.

Peggy



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lyn Chernak" <cherlyngsd@xxxxxxxxx>


> Ok, since that is a true statement, was it meant to be used as a quick fix 
> for movement or as a breeding tool? Was the 3rd generation spook suppose 
> to be on the sire's side or the dam's? Taking this a step further (no pun 
> intended) what would happen if the spook was on both sides and then 
> line-bred or in-bred?
> I agree with you  that sound dogs can get bored and not perform. And yes 
> it stings to be beat by an "unsound dog".
>
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> From: "Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx"
> I head it first hand...Lamar said that.  Actually, he said it in a few
> different ways. He'd say a spook showed better than a confident dog.  In
> fact, we have it on tape somewhere...
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