----- Original Message ----- From: "Ginger Cleary" <cleary1414@xxxxxxxxxxx> Previously Posted by Jamie -"Hi Scott...you may not like what I'm going to say, but I have to say itanyway. Our illustrated standard is a good one. It's the very one we allcut ourteeth on and remains true to what the design of the GSD was meant to be.The fact that most of our dogs today do not look like the Illustrated Standard means to me that we have gone off course in many ways." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I happen to agree with Jamie... BUT... How does one explain the dogs being shown today compared to the Illustrated Standard? Especially to a new person. I was talking with a gal last weekend that is a licensed judge. She is starting to add Herding breeds, and the subject of the GSD came up. I find it difficult to jibe the dogs in the ring with the picture shown in the Illustrated Standard **************************************** Putting my flame suit on, running for cover.... Answer? if the dogs in the ring don't match the standard, then logic would dictate that's where to start changing things. We don't change the standard to match what's in the ring. Judy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================