Hi Fred, I did make a suggestion and would like to add something in addition to that initial suggestion. 1) First suggestion was to gather our more knowledgeable people in a "Review Committee" they would view what had been accomplished to date,& make their collective recommendations to the Board as one voice. 2) There are several dogs from the 70's 80's 90's that could still win top awards today - clearly not all - but then again, there are some today that cannot win top awards due to incorrect structure 3) Use dogs for the IS that are no longer here. There are beautiful posed pictures of dogs such as GV Mannix that are as stylish as our better dogs of today 4) In my view is does help tremendously to show drawings of what is incorrect as compared to what is correct. Let us take ears for example, correct upright ears placed on top of the head to give the right planes. Then we have examples of ears that are set too low on the head, are turned in or bonneted over the head etc. 5) Another example; follow through. Show correct clean follow through. Then examples of the hock locked or not open, and not only that, how about the hock that is open but one can still see the lower thigh curved instead of straight out. Then there is the kick up too high in the rear. 6) I am for taking the standard word for word and then DEMONSTRATING by drawings what that standard actually means especially when it comes to motion. 7) It is a big undertaking however, it can be done and done as a wonderful educational tool. If we are not going to do it effectively, as a great educational tool, then best not be hasty and fall short of the goal. After all,the purpose is to represent the Shepherd in picture and word (the standard as written) as a source for anyone wanting to know or learn about the breed is it not? Good is not good enough, only excellence is good enough, the final, finished project will speak volumes about our breed - it must be "right on" Nancy Harper rear is. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================