I totally agree with you and believe me, a wish everyone reads your post and takes heart and learn. And succeed. A local Daschund (sp) club did just that, now they have a property where they can work their animals. But their membership is 80+. You can't do that with 2 people. Ileana In a message dated 1/12/2006 7:25:56 A.M. Central Standard Time, Pinehillgsds writes: We have a diverse membership who have very different interests - from conformation to schutzhund, rally to agility, obedience, therapy, tracking, and SAR. We have monthly meetings with educational programs, shows, matches, obedience and rally trials, and training classes. We are building our funds to buy a permanent show/training site with clubhouse! Everybody re-read this. It's the ticket IMO to a strong, healthy, vibrant club. Kathy ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================