Amy, you made a great points regarding both the List and the Parent = Club. Re the List - the Admins. have always intended that the List be a = resource to the Fancy - while the List is a private effort, and not part of the GSDCA, it was created to be the network of the Fancy and, as we see it, = the Regional Clubs and the Parent Clubs ARE the backbone of the sport and of = the Fancy. So, by definition, we want to do everything in our power to = support them. We encourage the Regional Clubs to use Showgsd-l to promote their shows, events, membership drives, etc. Those Clubs who have done that credit Showgsd-l with helping them to pull majors. We can't guarantee = that of course, but clearly it does help - most handlers and active = exhibitors are members of the List, and so posts regarding upcoming shows = definitely does help to get their attention. If you need help and support, put the word out on the List - there are many people who will help if they = realize help is needed. Re the Parent Club - the Board cares very much about the Regional Clubs, recognizes that the health of the Regional Clubs is critical to the = health of the Parent Club, and that the health of both is critical to the = Breed, and does want to be supportive in any way we can. Please let us know = when you need help and if you have particular needs or suggestions, please = let us know what they are. We will do our absolute best to help. Margery Golant -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:19 AM To: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: How to keep a club from closing down yes they need to ASK for help and this list is really = valuable.........they need to say in no uncertain terms we are on the brink of folding and = please SOS=20 Also i would contact the PC...............our new President is the chair = for the regional clubs committee and he has been very dedicated to the = regional clubs in all ways. I know this,,,,,i have worked with him in the = committee. I am sure if there is a need he will be right there doing his best to = help and guiding the PC to help also............... First and foremost we need to know and take it from there.=20 Amy Amy Safdir Almanya Shepherds www.almanyagsd.com ----- Original Message -----=20 From: InquestGSD@xxxxxxx=20 To: almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2006 9:09 AM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] How to keep a club from closing down In a message dated 1/11/2006 7:56:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: I would love to know if the club ever informed the GSDCA that it was about=20 to dissolve and if so what was the outcome ? I feel the PC needs to be more involved in doing what they can to = see=20 regional clubs survive...............but of course they need to=20 know...........................and Ileana I can't imagine you being = made out=20 as the bad guy. If I know you a slight bit from the list and = adopting my best friends dog when she passed away I know you gave your all to this...AMY Amy Flattery will get you anywhere.......LOL You bring up a good point. I think part of every regional clubs bylaw should include an article where the regional club is required to ask for counseling and help from the Parent Club not only when they are folding, = but when they are issues of ethics, treasury, and anything else that happens = in a club. Disclaimer: None of these were issues at the GSDC of Dallas. I am not the bad guy, and I am not a hero. I did what I expected = every member to do. The heroes are those who worked at it far longer than I = did. But, sometimes things just don't work out. I believe in doing the right thing, even when that decision is not the popular one. I will not be = held hostage to politically correct positions for popularity sake. =20 This would be a good time for those clubs who are in trouble, and = believe me when I tell you there are many, to reach out and see if anything can = be done to save them. And as I said before, I will be happy to help any = club, old and new, while I am waiting for the final moving date. But those = who are in the clubs, or want to be in the clubs, or want to take over, need = to stop the lip service and support the clubs before is too late. Ileana =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the = original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of = any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND = of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED.=20 ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN = ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS = EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL = BE PROSECUTED.=20 For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. 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