[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurities
- From: Robert Neiman <bnbgsds2000@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: myjoygs@xxxxxxx, List <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, ANN SCHULTZ <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 03:38:23 -0700 (PDT)
I've been saying for years that the Futurities are know longer what Connie
Beckhardt envisioned them to be when she started the program.
Bob Neiman / Walled Lake, Mich.
Breeder/owner of UKC GR Ch.B'N'B-Barkalot's Cherish RN
Co-owner of Parklin's Pillow Talk AKA Gidget
Co-owner of UKC ChSandyCreek-B'N'B-WC's Christmas Star AKA Echo
Co-owner of Ketlyn's Black Widow
--- On Thu, 5/7/09, myjoygs@xxxxxxx <myjoygs@xxxxxxx> wrote:
From: myjoygs@xxxxxxx <myjoygs@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurities
To: edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, holly@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Thursday, May 7, 2009, 8:17 AM
<<The handlers win, the breeders lose on
this one and I was under the impression that futirities are a breeder shpwcase.
My mistake!">>
Every good idea has both pros and cons if implemented.? I know many times a dog
especially a bitch will not be in coat or up to its potential when the futurity
they are entered in rolls around, by being able to enter more then one this
would give that particular dog a chance to be seen?when it is hopefully
in?better condition.? It would also potentially be a money maker for the clubs
which some are in dire need.? Yes there are cons but what better way for a
breeder to be able to show the progeny of?sires and dams in the best condition
they can.? I think it is worth looking into and weigh the pros and cons instead
of just focusing on the cons.
Joyce
-----Original Message-----
From: edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: holly@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, 6 May 2009 10:58 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurities
I agree with you. The people that can afford to will book handlers for multiple
futurities, leaving others without a handler or not knowing until the last
minute. People can come in and if the competition looks tough, pull out and go
to another futurity with lesser quality. The handlers win, the breeders lose on
this one and I was under the impression that futirities are a breeder shpwcase.
My mistake!
Ann
www.edangsd.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Holly Whitney" <holly@xxxxxxxxx>
To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 9:51:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurities
I sent my concerns on to the board. Please, please, when talking
about this try to remember what it was like when you first started
out. I personally believe very much in the futurity system and I'm
not even a breeder. I enjoy showing at them and I get NO personal
gain. I do it for the love of the show and watching the young dogs.
I love watching a class where litter mates are entered. I love
being part of it.
My concern is exactly that, what you are suggesting will limit my
choice of handlers. I can't even guess how handlers will work this
out. What I'd like to avoid is the stress of ringside handler
shuffling.
Perhaps, the upside is that you will get more participation but the
downside might be that it will drive out us, the newbies, the little
guys and I believe you are trying to encourage us.
Holly
On May 6, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Amy Safdir wrote:
> Yes please share all your thoughts with me and the Board it will all
> be taken into consideration when planning this.
>
> Our original thoughts on this is first and foremost to bring about
> more participation since in the past a puppy with panno or stagey
> has missed a futurity and also in recent years we have had many last
> minute judge changes and this would allow the exhibitors/breeders
> the opportunity to have a backup plan. Yes this would bring in
> increased revenue, but I must be
honest our thoughts are with what
> will bring in more participation and allow the decreased numbers to
> have a little more liberties at actually being able to actually make
> a futurity without having to be absent completely.
> It will be a choice though..............if folks don't like the idea
> they will still have the choice to enter only one.
>
> As with any changes I am sure there will be a down side, but
> hopefully it won't be a signifcant down side.
>
> On handlers.............I am not sure they will really want to tie
> themselves up for many regions on one dog anyways. I am sure that
> would hurt their income and ability to schedule all their dogs. They
> will definitely have to work that out.
>
> Thank you all for caring and sharing your thoughts.
> Amy Safdir
> GSDCA National Futurity Chair
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: <TISHW@xxxxxxx>
> To: <holly@xxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:19 PM
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurities
>
>
>> Hi Holly,
>>
>> Please send your concerns to all Board members and to Amy Safdir, the
>> Futurity Chair. Amy had suggested the Board allow persons to enter
>> two
>> futurities and show in only one. The Board decided to allow
>> persons to enter all
>> futurities and show in only one. However, Amy is to work out a
>> plan on how
>> this should be implemented. Your points are well-taken and Amy
>> may want
>> to bring that up to the Board for discussion at the next meeting.
>>
>> Tish
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>> you now.
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