I couldn't agree more. Though breeders with money will always have the distinct advantage over those without, at least we were all on the same playing field when it comes to dogs going lame or blowing coat right before their futurity/maturity. Now those that can afford it will be able to enter multiple futurities, and only show when their dog is at it's optimum or where competition is weak or dogs are few. Not something that most of us can afford to do and it certainly tilts the playing field even further towards Breeders that have the funds to play under these new rules. Sigh. Cindy www.cinosamgsd.com --- On Wed, 5/6/09, edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <edangsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurities To: holly@xxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Wednesday, May 6, 2009, 9:58 PM I agree with you. The people that can afford to will book handlers for multiple futurities, leaving others without a handler or not knowing until the last minute. People can come in and if the competition looks tough, pull out and go to another futurity with lesser quality. The handlers win, the breeders lose on this one and I was under the impression that futirities are a breeder shpwcase. My mistake! Ann www.edangsd.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holly Whitney" <holly@xxxxxxxxx> To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 9:51:34 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurities I sent my concerns on to the board. Please, please, when talking about this try to remember what it was like when you first started out. I personally believe very much in the futurity system and I'm not even a breeder. I enjoy showing at them and I get NO personal gain. I do it for the love of the show and watching the young dogs. I love watching a class where litter mates are entered. I love being part of it. My concern is exactly that, what you are suggesting will limit my choice of handlers. I can't even guess how handlers will work this out. What I'd like to avoid is the stress of ringside handler shuffling. Perhaps, the upside is that you will get more participation but the downside might be that it will drive out us, the newbies, the little guys and I believe you are trying to encourage us. Holly On May 6, 2009, at 9:35 PM, Amy Safdir wrote: > Yes please share all your thoughts with me and the Board it will all > be taken into consideration when planning this. > > Our original thoughts on this is first and foremost to bring about > more participation since in the past a puppy with panno or stagey > has missed a futurity and also in recent years we have had many last > minute judge changes and this would allow the exhibitors/breeders > the opportunity to have a backup plan. Yes this would bring in > increased revenue, but I must be honest our thoughts are with what > will bring in more participation and allow the decreased numbers to > have a little more liberties at actually being able to actually make > a futurity without having to be absent completely. > It will be a choice though..............if folks don't like the idea > they will still have the choice to enter only one. > > As with any changes I am sure there will be a down side, but > hopefully it won't be a signifcant down side. > > On handlers.............I am not sure they will really want to tie > themselves up for many regions on one dog anyways. I am sure that > would hurt their income and ability to schedule all their dogs. They > will definitely have to work that out. > > Thank you all for caring and sharing your thoughts. > Amy Safdir > GSDCA National Futurity Chair > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <TISHW@xxxxxxx> > To: <holly@xxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:19 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Futurities > > >> Hi Holly, >> >> Please send your concerns to all Board members and to Amy Safdir, the >> Futurity Chair. Amy had suggested the Board allow persons to enter >> two >> futurities and show in only one. The Board decided to allow >> persons to enter all >> futurities and show in only one. However, Amy is to work out a >> plan on how >> this should be implemented. Your points are well-taken and Amy >> may want >> to bring that up to the Board for discussion at the next meeting. >> >> Tish >> **************Remember Mom this Mother's Day! 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