What I find amazing is that this is a hobby for most. If it is as bad as you say it is then why participate? Do you think the problem is the owners of these dogs or the handlers who manage them? If you find a dyed dog then are you going press charges against the owner of the dog or the handler and trainers who have had control over the dog for months before it was shown? Think of this example: A owner of a dog who has sent their dog away for training and conditioning They are not in control of what the trainer or handler decides to do to improve my dogs performance. All they do is write a check Now tell me who is at fault if the dogs shows up dyed or drugged. The only people who will benefit from all the testing are the attorneys involved in the lawsuit. Terry --- On Sun, 10/5/08, Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: EH ?? To: Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx, "Showgsd-l" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: lfossland@xxxxxxx, campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx, GSD0110@xxxxxxx, carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 1:18 PM I am looking into the cost per test, and technicalities of doing this.When I have specific answers to the people that have concerns, I will post the answers. And to answer Terry Cochran's question of "why change Now" because what we have been doing is CLEARLY NOT WORKING . DRUGGING AND DYEING IS GETTING TO BE THE NORM AT THE NATIONALS. That's why. If you don't like the idea, then nobody is putting a gun to "your" (collectively) heads to enter. What are people afraid of????? Sure makes me wonder. Kathy http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com Home of : CH. Elvaston's Nations Cup TC, 26 BOBs CH. Victory's Leviathan CH. Garter's E-Male of Fran-Jo Anne Isle WEBSITE PUP-DATED SEPT 22, 2008 On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 1:04 PM, <Bokenkampgsd1@xxxxxxx> wrote: > In a message dated 10/5/2008 11:39:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > lfossland@xxxxxxx writes: > > No random tests! Either all or none. > > *I don't feel this is workable,not because of a guilty conscience, simply > because you cannot * > ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================