Well, perhaps it might just even be enough for those who cheat to know that we are not blind to their shenanigans and will refrain from doing this in the future? Would that make us somewhat naïve? Lee F. -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Edwin Hill Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 11:10 AM To: rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx; freelist Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: EH ?? Yes Kathy...I don't think there is a valid excuse against testing...but then again there's no valid excuse against the airports making me remove my shoes, or opening my computer case or making me throw away my water before I get on a plane,pretty so we're all going to have to fly naked!... but its a big pain in the butt....and yes I am comparing apples to oranges...my point is today testing, tomorrow what's next?...folks are always going to cheat..whether it be sports, school, dog shows or what ever....its part of the human condition, no, not everyone.....but when it comes to winning and being first...well...thats who we are.......time for me to go to church...Ed --- On Sun, 10/5/08, Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: EH ?? To: campaignersgsd@xxxxxxxxx, carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, gsd0110@xxxxxxx Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 10:55 AM I believe judges are afraid of litigation and maybe rightfully so. Unless of course the stuff comes off on their hands. By mandating D and D testing for Selects , GV, GV, Fut/Mat Finalists at our national, we take the fear of reprisal from the judge, because it is done to ALL of the above winners, immediately following pictures or what have you.....I will investigate more fully the technical side of it, the cost, the time, and who does it. Our PC is here to set the bar for health, and protection and promotion of the breed. While the Board and Officers could easily move to making this happen, it may take a concensus of the people to get the ball rolling. There is simply no real reason , no adequate excuse as to why this cannot be done. I have yet had anyone give me a valid excuse against it. It's time has come Folks. 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