[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: EH ??

  • From: Ruth Scheubler <rightdogphoto@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, gsd0110@xxxxxxx, rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx, zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 5 Oct 2008 07:37:59 -0700 (PDT)

I understand that the AKC will not do anything if only because of the 
litigation issue (we would hope it was not because they did not care!) but if 
the parent club made testing a part of going Select, that would be reasonable. 
But what would you do if the BOB or BOS or BOW tested positive? Would you take 
those awards away?
I am all for it - but then I knew a Golden breeder many years ago who wanted a 
hair test of any dog she bred to. Her dogs retained true Golden color without 
help as a result.
Ruth


--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

From: Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: EH ??
To: carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, gsd0110@xxxxxxx, 
rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx
Date: Sunday, October 5, 2008, 7:10 AM

I agree with Kathy about drug and dye testing, however the logistics would be a
problem unless the testing was random.  In addition to dealing with the
dishonestly, those of us who do have dogs with beautiful black and red pigment
are often accused of dyeing their dogs.  I have lost count of the number of
times someone has walked up to my beautiful Callie at a show and asked,
"Is that bitch dyed?"  I would welcome a dye test!  Bring it on!
 Zoa
Dr. Zoa Rockenstein
www.riverrockshepherds.com 



----- Original Message ----
From: carolyn mckenna <carolynmckenna@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Sunday, October 5, 2008 8:48:06 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: EH ??


--- On Sun, 10/5/08, Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Kathy Tank <rbuffdogs@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: EH ??

> 
> Hello Gary
> Yes, we have all seen the dogs that are so badly dyed, they
> look like it's
> been applied with a paintball gun , by a colorblind
> shooter....lol.....sadly
> they exist and some win on even a National level.  I dare
> say a very high
> percentage of Selects would not pass dye testing ,certainly
> not from what I
> witnessed last year.
> 
>
> That is what confounds me, and others...Pigmentation is SO
> easily fixed in a
> single generation..much easier than temperament, structure,
> other
> things...yet it is the most abused AKC regulation we see.
> We all espouse wanting to "better the breed".  We
> all cry out for genome
> testing,  and health certifications from nose to toe....and
> honesty from
> stud and bitch owners...and yet, some of the most prolific
> kennels and well
> known owners in the breed, on each coast and in-between,
> think the FRAUD of
> dyeing is OK???
> I laugh when I see the progeny of these dogs....white,
> creme, a faded
> charcoal for saddles...
> from a black and red stud, and black and red
> bitch??HAHAHAHAHAHAH....but sad
> for the owners of the puppies.
> THERE SIMPLY IS NO EXCUSE FOR IT.  This is epidemic, no
> matter what some may
> wish you to believe, who have interestingly been involved
> with the issue in
> the past, yet claim...
> This is not a "no harm, no foul".  People are
> changing the appearances of
> the dogs to the point where saddles are being fabricated,
> where none
> exist...faces are darkened, and faulty tans and creams are
> suddenly some
> Clairol or whatever color number???? what?    
> 
> Want to better the breed folks?  Lets start simply, non
> evasively, MANDATORY
> DYE TEST...GUILTY PARTIES SUSPENDED FROM THE PC FOR TWO
> YEARS.....DRUG
> TESTING...GUILTY PARTIES...YOU ARE GONE FOR LIFE....
> Let's see where the rubber meets the road...or are we
> going to get the same
> ole BS of ..."oh but"
> "let's not pick on anyone"  , what about this
> excuse or that?  ..blah blah
> blah....
> ITS TIME HAS COME and there simply is NO excuse not to .
> Kathy Tank
> 
> 
> 
> 
>
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