The Grand Victor title is a PC title. If additional requirements were added for Grand Victor (and Grand Victrix), it would be possible for there to be a BOB or BOS without a Grand Victor or Grand Victrix. This same thing currently happens with the Obedience Victor/Victrix title. There have been years when there was a Highest Combined Score winner that was not declared the Obedience Victor/Victrix because not all of the requirements for the title were accomplished. Sue Mazzeo From: Sally Hayden <dan-ann@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Do we ask enough of our Grand Victors? Date: Fri, 3 Oct 2008 13:13:41 -0500 I don't believe Grand Victor is an akc title it is a PC title sally _________________________________________________________________ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================