In a message dated 5/21/2005 11:07:03 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, rivendellp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: It is easy to say something like that, but before we do, ask way do we need to change the definition of Select or find another term? Will it improve the breed? Pauls answer: Yes...it well could. The best of the best "should" be showcased for possible use in other breeding programs. It could be the GV or high Select dogs would not go well with all with your animals and the other recognized animals would. IF ANYONE USES TITLES TO SELECT BREEDING PARTNERS, THEY DESERVE WHAT THEY GET. NO VALID BREEDER WOULD DO THIS. Will it increase entries...It could. The more dogs that receive recognition the better it is. That could give incentive for more people and their good dogs participating. WHEN YOU LIMIT THE CHANCE TO WIN, IT IS HARD TO FIGURE WHY MORE PEOPLE WOULD ATTEMPT TO DO IT. LOWER THE ODDS IN VEGAS, AND SEE HOW IT WOULD ENCOURAGE MORE PLAYERS. Will it improve breeding? Already answered this one in my above comment...yes. NO. UNLESS YOU CAN SHOW ME HOW. Will it increase profits for the club? More entries= $ SEE ABOVE. IF YOU GIVE LESS CHANCE TO WIN, WHO WOULD THINK IT WOULD INCREASE THE ENTRIES. Will it allow more people to enjoy the sport? Yes...if more people think they can receive awards for their really good dogs...they will enjoy the sport more. BUT, IF YOU LIMIT THE AWARDS, LESS PEOPLE WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO WIN. THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF A PREMISE THAT DOESN'T WORK. Will it educate more judges? It could...I assume you mean Judges outside of the ring. If more animals participate it would give them more animals to evaluate pro or con. AGAIN A FAULTY PREMISE. HOW CAN MORE PEOPLE PARTICIPATE IF LESS PEOPLE WILL WIN? Will it improve the quality of the judging? It could...but you never know for sure. You can lead a horse to water...but you make him to have relations with the fish. I would hope that as the current Judge issues awards for these good dogs...Judges outside the ring would assess such quality and thereby improve their own abilities to judge the best dogs. HOPE SPRINGS ETERNAL. Will it make me post less?...We can only pray...only pray. PAUL AND I, WHO OFTEN THINK ALIKE, AND SELDOM DISAGREE SEE THIS DIFFERENTLY. I RESPECT HIS OPINION, BUT NOW AND THEN WE EACH NEED A SLAP UPSIDE THE HEAD. I HAVE DONE THIS IN 12 POINTS AND IN ALL CAPITALS TO HELP THOSE OF MY AGE, WHO NO LONGER CAN READ THE TYPE THAT USUALLY COMES OUT OF MY MACHINE. IF YOU THINK LIMITING THE SELECTS WILL INCREASE THE ENTRIES, THEN I NEED TO GO FIND ALICE AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO STOP THE QUEEN FROM CUTTING OFF MORE HEADS. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================