> [Original Message] > From: RivendellP <rivendellp@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ELG440@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 5/21/2005 1:06:38 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] A compromise on selects > > > > Evan asks...Why? > > > It could be the GV or high Select dogs would not go well with all with your > animals and the other recognized animals would. CHRISTINE WRITES: perhaps this is the crux of the whole problem...titles shouldn 't be used to make breeding decisions..titles have nothing to do with breeding. Example" on Friday before Specials..Bull was not a G...On Sat he was..this did not change his producing ability one iota..however..as soon as he achieved the title..more people wanted to breed to him..why? > > Will it increase entries...It could. The more dogs that receive recognition > the better it is. That could give incentive for more people and their good > dogs participating. CHRISTINE WRITES:: If the more dogs that receive recognition is better..than no one should be bitching about 18 selects! > > Will it improve breeding? Already answered this one in my above > comment...yes. CHRISTINE WRITES:Based on my limited experience again..titles don't improve breeding..producing ability does. > Will it increase profits for the club? More entries= $> CHRISTINE WRITES:: probably not...X number of people are entering no matter what. Handlers will charge the same..and entries and costs will be the same...I doubt if you will get a "blue light Special" from your handler for getting a lesser title. > Will it allow more people to enjoy the sport? Yes...if more people think > they can receive awards for their really good dogs...they will enjoy the > sport more.CHRISTINE WRITES: so again..why all the bitching about 18 selects..look how many went home happy!!! I can see it now.." here is your award for your "really good dog" he is not worthy of a select..but we want you to feel included..and not go home empty handed. to me..this is lessening the value of a "select"..sorry..not everything deserves an award..and where do you draw the line..10 selects..and 20 other "feel good" awards...Hell..why not give everyone a ribbon for just entering. > > Will it educate more judges? It could...I assume you mean Judges outside of > the ring. If more animals participate it would give them more animals to > evaluate pro or con. CHRISTINE WRITES: I think rewarding undeserved quality with any type of award further blurs the line with judges as to what the essence of the breed is. > > Will it improve the quality of the judging? It could...but you never know > for sure. You can lead a horse to water...but you make him to have relations > with the fish. I would hope that as the current Judge issues awards for > these good dogs...Judges outside the ring would assess such quality and > thereby improve their own abilities to judge the best dogs. CHRISTINE WRITES: No comment..I no nothing about horses having unlawful carnal knowledge of fish and how this pertains to judges. > > Will it make me post less?...We can only pray...only pray. CHRISTINE WRITES: Amen > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of SD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================