[rollei_list] Re: Rolleimot

  • From: "Peter K." <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 14:28:56 -0700

Depending on the business size and the power of the President, etc. it can
be run like a monarchy or dictatorship. The better ones that have survived
over the years are not. I too have worked for one where the President and
CEO was a so full of himself no matter what anyone told him he ignored it
and did what he wanted. I quit after 2 years.

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 9:57 AM, Jeff Kelley <jlkphoto@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  "Business is not run like a monarchy."
>
> Peter, I agree, many I've had the pleasure of working with have been run
> like a dictatorship....
>
>
> Jeff
>
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> *Subject:* [rollei_list] Re: Rolleimot
>
> Sorry Marc, you are wrong. The interchangeable lens Mamiya was very well
> made and a success. It ate into Rollei sales.
> The Rollei interchangeable lens prototype was based on the Rollei E and
> made about 1958. The Rollei SLR prototype (not the SL66) was actually built
> around 1956. I can check the specific dates if you like. Heidecke was a
> great designer but apparently from what I read not very strong in sticking
> to his decisions. Of course we will never know the specifics for certain,
> but all his modern designs never really made it past prototype. Makes me
> think he was smart but with limited backbone.
> Franke and Heidecke were the company founders, and while executives
> decisions to build something was not theirs alone. They actually involved
> the executive staff. This may hav included the General Manager, and other
> department managers as they would be the ones to create production. Suggest
> you read up on this and give specifics if you think my facts are wrong.
> Business is not run like a monarchy. You actually have a board, a CEO, and
> then an executive staff, and others that are all part of the process.
>
> Peter K.
>
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 9:53 AM, Marc James Small 
> <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> At 10:54 AM 4/10/2010, Peter K. wrote:
>>
>>> From what I have read, Heidecke did not lose interest. He was talked out
>>> of the idea of producing an SLR by the management of Rollei. These were the
>>> same geniuses who talked him out of putting the interchangeable lens TLR
>>> that he developed into production. They were comfortable and making money so
>>> they did not want to change.
>>>
>>> If you think about it, these idiot managers thought the Rolliemot was OK
>>> to develop but not an SLR? Talk about stupidity. The Rolliemot is odd or
>>> maybe useless but it was what I would call the Edsel of accessories. I am
>>> sure there are odd accessories things developed by other cameras makers
>>> throughout the years. Even Leica (are they still in business these days?)
>>>
>>
>> Not only is your language a tad intemperate, but your historical facts are
>> in error, and you are running developments from 1955 into developments from
>> 1963 as if they happened at the same time.
>>
>> The interchangeable lens TLR was a clunker and it was wise that they
>> avoided producing it.  It would have turned a svelte masterpiece into the
>> sort of overweight disaster Mamiya produced.
>>
>> Franke and Heidecke WERE the management at the time the decision to table
>> the SLR.  Blame one, blame the other, but there just is no one out around to
>> blame!
>>
>> And in the 1950's and early 1960's, F&H sales were substantial and solid.
>>  Very few of us can see the future, and I really cannot fault F&H for
>> anything other than the Rolleimagic.
>>
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>>
>> msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
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> Peter K
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