Carlos I have been following with interest your discussions with Peter, but now your photographs have me confused. I've looked at the rolleimot, and the picture of a 150 exposure magazine which you included when we discussed this in 2007 a link to which I include here, http://auction-team.de/new_highlights/2003_04/0065.htm and I cannot see how they could operate together. Was there a different large capacity magazine for the camera? All the best Larry Cuffe On Friday, April 09, 2010, at 05:01PM, "CarlosMFreaza" <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >I meant 500 units.- > >Carlos > >2010/4/9 CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>: >> Yes Peter, that is the image in my blog I mentioned above, it was an >> advanced accesory in 1963, but there were better solutions in 1969, >> the last year it was manufactured. BTW it was expensive, 10 were sold >> for sure because they were asked for the special 150 rames magazine. >> The average was 1 frame each 3.5 seconds, not bad for 1963 and for a >> camera designed for manual use only. %00 units were manufactured and >> most of them were sold the first years of production. >> >> Carlos >> >> 2010/4/9 Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>: >>> I did see the remote: >>> >>> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7YCYTkFybJY/S7-MO7F2SsI/AAAAAAAAAaM/5Wgbe2NXChA/s1600/Rolleimot+1+a.jpg >>> >>> So it would appear that this was really a motor drive more than anything >>> else. Wonder if anyone actually bought one for use? I mean, to take this to >>> a sporting event or a place where you would need to take consecutive photos >>> would be silly considering the size. Any idea of the number of photos per >>> second this allowed? Maybe 1 fps? >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks Carlos. OK. But you would still need a LONG Remote Control Wire. So >>>> I would imagine Rollei must have made them at one time and you would have >>>> had to ask for them to be fabricated to the length needed. Do you know what >>>> the maximum allowable length of those cords would be? Any idea where they >>>> were actually employed in use outside of Rollei's testing them before >>>> putting them on the shelf? To me it still seems like an expensive solution >>>> looking for a problem. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:37 PM, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Peter: >>>>> The Rolleimot does not work the way you wrote below. The >>>>> only long cord is the Remote Control wire, in fact the Rolleimot >>>>> provides automatic shutter release via a short cable and automatic >>>>> film advance, the images in eBay are confusing because they "cut" the >>>>> short shutter release cable and then it seems two different cables. >>>>> BTW, being the power an internal source, within the Rolleimot body, >>>>> you can't see it, I uploded these two Rolleimot images, with camera >>>>> and without camera for a better understanding of its working: >>>>> http://itarphotos.blogspot.com/2010/04/rolleimot.html >>>>> >>>>> In the second image you can see the Remote Control wire. >>>>> >>>>> Carlos >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 2010/4/9 Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>: >>>>> > OK, that makes sense. But you would still need a long "wired" cable >>>>> > release >>>>> > to take a picture. So it was designed for very specific applications. >>>>> > Maybe >>>>> > that is why they never sold many (or perhaps gave them away to certain >>>>> > institutions). >>>>> > >>>>> > You can pick one up cheap at KEH (under $200) ---> >>>>> > http://www.keh.com/Product-Details/1/RT16999025940I/RT16/FE.aspx >>>>> > >>>>> > Or a mint one on ebay for $1000. Item #380221806610 (nice photos here) >>>>> > >>>>> > BTW, there is nothing to show an internal power, just a gray cord which >>>>> > I >>>>> > would assume could be from a 6v source of Ds or AC Adapter. Still you >>>>> > would >>>>> > need a very long shutter release cord. So very limited use of this >>>>> > device. I >>>>> > would say it is a solution looking for a problem rather than the other >>>>> > way >>>>> > around. May be one reason why F&H went bankrupt. Stupidity in building >>>>> > things for a market too small to provide revenue and ignoring the >>>>> > market >>>>> > (like the Medium format SLR market they forgot about until 1962) that >>>>> > would >>>>> > make them money. >>>>> > >>>>> > --Peter K >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:26 AM, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> >>>>> > wrote: >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Peter: >>>>> >> I insist, the Rolleimot has a 6v motor, the energy is >>>>> >> provided using four D size batteries, this is an internal power >>>>> >> source, no other electricity is necessary, however it allowed to use a >>>>> >> transformer. >>>>> >> Rolleimot was manufactured along 6 years anyway, it costed DM 495 in >>>>> >> 1963, a Rolleicord Vb costed DM 360 in 1962 and a Rolleiflex T DM 555 >>>>> >> in 1961, it was an expensive accesory. >>>>> >> >>>>> >> Carlos >>>>> >> >>>>> >> 2010/4/8 Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>: >>>>> >> > My problem is you would have to have electricity in those dangerous >>>>> >> > areas. >>>>> >> > Something that is hardly doable. >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Marc James Small >>>>> >> > <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>> >> > wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> At 02:47 PM 4/8/2010, Peter K. wrote: >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >>> The reason I am silent is that I work and travel. Do not always >>>>> >> >>> check >>>>> >> >>> this list. So I will say that I was perhaps wrong to call the >>>>> >> >>> Rolleimot a >>>>> >> >>> pig. The Rolleimot apparently had a "unique market" as you note. >>>>> >> >>> What >>>>> >> >>> market? Apparently no one really knows, but it must have been >>>>> >> >>> useful >>>>> >> >>> somewhere. You would need a long electric cord and a long remote >>>>> >> >>> cord, >>>>> >> >>> so go >>>>> >> >>> figure where this was applicable. >>>>> >> >>> >>>>> >> >>> As to Herr Prochnow. He was a nice man. I too corresponded with >>>>> >> >>> him, >>>>> >> >>> but >>>>> >> >>> would not call myself an expert because of that. Not sure why he >>>>> >> >>> did >>>>> >> >>> not >>>>> >> >>> return your emails, or those of Bob Shell. But he was quite >>>>> >> >>> accessible >>>>> >> >>> prior >>>>> >> >>> to his passing and I did write him on a number of occasions and >>>>> >> >>> received >>>>> >> >>> responses. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Peter >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> The Rolleimot was developed for technical applications in dangerous >>>>> >> >> areas. >>>>> >> >> Seems pretty clear to the rest of us. What problem do you have >>>>> >> >> with >>>>> >> >> this >>>>> >> >> possibility? >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> I only obtained an e-mail address for Prochnow several months >>>>> >> >> before >>>>> >> >> his >>>>> >> >> death, and I suppose that is why he never replied to my missives. >>>>> >> >> No >>>>> >> >> problem. Bob Shell wrote him at length by snail-mail a few times >>>>> >> >> about >>>>> >> >> eight or nine years back and never got a response. For all I know, >>>>> >> >> the >>>>> >> >> letters were lost in the mail. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> I was not complaining about my lack of direct contact with >>>>> >> >> Prochnow: I >>>>> >> >> was simply noting that Carlos had a vibrant and rich exchange with >>>>> >> >> Prochnow >>>>> >> >> for many years, and I did not. And I now know that you had contact >>>>> >> >> as >>>>> >> >> well. >>>>> >> >> As you properly note, there are only 24 hours a day, and all of us >>>>> >> >> fail to >>>>> >> >> push things with sufficient vigor until the time for doing so is >>>>> >> >> past. >>>>> >> >> I >>>>> >> >> still have a dozen lens serial numbers to send Charlie Barringer -- >>>>> >> >> and >>>>> >> >> it >>>>> >> >> is too late now to do this. I should have done it three weeks ago, >>>>> >> >> when it >>>>> >> >> might have made a difference, but I just could not find the Round >>>>> >> >> Tuit. >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> Marc >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >> >> Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir! >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> --- >>>>> >> >> Rollei List >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >>>>> >> >> in >>>>> >> >> the >>>>> >> >> subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >>>>> >> >> 'unsubscribe' >>>>> >> >> in >>>>> >> >> the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> >> - Online, searchable archives are available at >>>>> >> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >>>>> >> >> >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> > -- >>>>> >> > Peter K >>>>> >> > Ó¿Õ¬ >>>>> >> > >>>>> >> --- >>>>> >> Rollei List >>>>> >> >>>>> >> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >> >>>>> >> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >>>>> >> in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >>>>> >> >>>>> >> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >>>>> >> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into >>>>> >> www.freelists.org >>>>> >> >>>>> >> - Online, searchable archives are available at >>>>> >> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >>>>> >> >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > -- >>>>> > Peter K >>>>> > Ó¿Õ¬ >>>>> > >>>>> --- >>>>> Rollei List >>>>> >>>>> - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>>>> >>>>> - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >>>>> in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >>>>> >>>>> - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >>>>> 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org >>>>> >>>>> - Online, searchable archives are available at >>>>> //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Peter K >>>> Ó¿Õ¬ >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Peter K >>> Ó¿Õ¬ >>> >> >--- >Rollei List > >- Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >- Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' >in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > >- Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with >'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > >- Online, searchable archives are available at >//www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list