[rollei_list] Re: Rolleimot
- From: CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 17:59:47 -0300
Yes Peter, that is the image in my blog I mentioned above, it was an
advanced accesory in 1963, but there were better solutions in 1969,
the last year it was manufactured. BTW it was expensive, 10 were sold
for sure because they were asked for the special 150 rames magazine.
The average was 1 frame each 3.5 seconds, not bad for 1963 and for a
camera designed for manual use only. %00 units were manufactured and
most of them were sold the first years of production.
Carlos
2010/4/9 Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>:
> I did see the remote:
>
> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7YCYTkFybJY/S7-MO7F2SsI/AAAAAAAAAaM/5Wgbe2NXChA/s1600/Rolleimot+1+a.jpg
>
> So it would appear that this was really a motor drive more than anything
> else. Wonder if anyone actually bought one for use? I mean, to take this to
> a sporting event or a place where you would need to take consecutive photos
> would be silly considering the size. Any idea of the number of photos per
> second this allowed? Maybe 1 fps?
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:48 PM, Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Carlos. OK. But you would still need a LONG Remote Control Wire. So
>> I would imagine Rollei must have made them at one time and you would have
>> had to ask for them to be fabricated to the length needed. Do you know what
>> the maximum allowable length of those cords would be? Any idea where they
>> were actually employed in use outside of Rollei's testing them before
>> putting them on the shelf? To me it still seems like an expensive solution
>> looking for a problem.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 1:37 PM, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Peter:
>>> The Rolleimot does not work the way you wrote below. The
>>> only long cord is the Remote Control wire, in fact the Rolleimot
>>> provides automatic shutter release via a short cable and automatic
>>> film advance, the images in eBay are confusing because they "cut" the
>>> short shutter release cable and then it seems two different cables.
>>> BTW, being the power an internal source, within the Rolleimot body,
>>> you can't see it, I uploded these two Rolleimot images, with camera
>>> and without camera for a better understanding of its working:
>>> http://itarphotos.blogspot.com/2010/04/rolleimot.html
>>>
>>> In the second image you can see the Remote Control wire.
>>>
>>> Carlos
>>>
>>>
>>> 2010/4/9 Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>> > OK, that makes sense. But you would still need a long "wired" cable
>>> > release
>>> > to take a picture. So it was designed for very specific applications.
>>> > Maybe
>>> > that is why they never sold many (or perhaps gave them away to certain
>>> > institutions).
>>> >
>>> > You can pick one up cheap at KEH (under $200) --->
>>> > http://www.keh.com/Product-Details/1/RT16999025940I/RT16/FE.aspx
>>> >
>>> > Or a mint one on ebay for $1000. Item #380221806610 (nice photos here)
>>> >
>>> > BTW, there is nothing to show an internal power, just a gray cord which
>>> > I
>>> > would assume could be from a 6v source of Ds or AC Adapter. Still you
>>> > would
>>> > need a very long shutter release cord. So very limited use of this
>>> > device. I
>>> > would say it is a solution looking for a problem rather than the other
>>> > way
>>> > around. May be one reason why F&H went bankrupt. Stupidity in building
>>> > things for a market too small to provide revenue and ignoring the
>>> > market
>>> > (like the Medium format SLR market they forgot about until 1962) that
>>> > would
>>> > make them money.
>>> >
>>> > --Peter K
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:26 AM, CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Peter:
>>> >> I insist, the Rolleimot has a 6v motor, the energy is
>>> >> provided using four D size batteries, this is an internal power
>>> >> source, no other electricity is necessary, however it allowed to use a
>>> >> transformer.
>>> >> Rolleimot was manufactured along 6 years anyway, it costed DM 495 in
>>> >> 1963, a Rolleicord Vb costed DM 360 in 1962 and a Rolleiflex T DM 555
>>> >> in 1961, it was an expensive accesory.
>>> >>
>>> >> Carlos
>>> >>
>>> >> 2010/4/8 Peter K. <peterk727@xxxxxxxxx>:
>>> >> > My problem is you would have to have electricity in those dangerous
>>> >> > areas.
>>> >> > Something that is hardly doable.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 4:54 PM, Marc James Small
>>> >> > <marcsmall@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> >> > wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> At 02:47 PM 4/8/2010, Peter K. wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>> The reason I am silent is that I work and travel. Do not always
>>> >> >>> check
>>> >> >>> this list. So I will say that I was perhaps wrong to call the
>>> >> >>> Rolleimot a
>>> >> >>> pig. The Rolleimot apparently had a "unique market" as you note.
>>> >> >>> What
>>> >> >>> market? Apparently no one really knows, but it must have been
>>> >> >>> useful
>>> >> >>> somewhere. You would need a long electric cord and a long remote
>>> >> >>> cord,
>>> >> >>> so go
>>> >> >>> figure where this was applicable.
>>> >> >>>
>>> >> >>> As to Herr Prochnow. He was a nice man. I too corresponded with
>>> >> >>> him,
>>> >> >>> but
>>> >> >>> would not call myself an expert because of that. Not sure why he
>>> >> >>> did
>>> >> >>> not
>>> >> >>> return your emails, or those of Bob Shell. But he was quite
>>> >> >>> accessible
>>> >> >>> prior
>>> >> >>> to his passing and I did write him on a number of occasions and
>>> >> >>> received
>>> >> >>> responses.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Peter
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> The Rolleimot was developed for technical applications in dangerous
>>> >> >> areas.
>>> >> >> Seems pretty clear to the rest of us. What problem do you have
>>> >> >> with
>>> >> >> this
>>> >> >> possibility?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I only obtained an e-mail address for Prochnow several months
>>> >> >> before
>>> >> >> his
>>> >> >> death, and I suppose that is why he never replied to my missives.
>>> >> >> No
>>> >> >> problem. Bob Shell wrote him at length by snail-mail a few times
>>> >> >> about
>>> >> >> eight or nine years back and never got a response. For all I know,
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> letters were lost in the mail.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I was not complaining about my lack of direct contact with
>>> >> >> Prochnow: I
>>> >> >> was simply noting that Carlos had a vibrant and rich exchange with
>>> >> >> Prochnow
>>> >> >> for many years, and I did not. And I now know that you had contact
>>> >> >> as
>>> >> >> well.
>>> >> >> As you properly note, there are only 24 hours a day, and all of us
>>> >> >> fail to
>>> >> >> push things with sufficient vigor until the time for doing so is
>>> >> >> past.
>>> >> >> I
>>> >> >> still have a dozen lens serial numbers to send Charlie Barringer --
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> it
>>> >> >> is too late now to do this. I should have done it three weeks ago,
>>> >> >> when it
>>> >> >> might have made a difference, but I just could not find the Round
>>> >> >> Tuit.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Marc
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> msmall@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> >> >> Cha robh bàs fir gun ghràs fir!
>>> >> >>
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