I agree with you Peter. I think Arbus clearly exploited her subjects; she portrayed them in a supremely negative light. Her case as a fine art photographer was strengthened in that she committed suicide and in some sense joins the "freaks". As for the spin on truth; and it being in the eye of the beholder. Beauty may be in the eye of the beholder, but truth is that which is in agreement with reality. -----Original Message----- From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter J Nebergall Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:26 PM To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [rollei_list] Re: Rollei at the Movies Just as it is possible to make anyone look like a crook by liting, framing, and angle choice, Arbus "darkened" her products to fit her vision. As a survivor of major depression, I understand what she was doing -- and how she was documenting her world view ("The truth IS, but 'reality' is what a given person thinks about the truth," she might say...) but it is the skewed view of a depressed person. One could just as easily paint with light as with darkness. P.J. Nebergall On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 18:10:02 -0400 Craig Roberts <crgrbrts@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes: > As I mentioned in my message, Eric, I do have releases. The subjects > > are self-advocates. In my work, I live with strict HIIPA > regulations > and protective sensibilities and, in this case, the law is > satisfied. > > That's part of the reason I posed the ethical question. > > Thanks, > > Craig > > > > > > > > > --- > Rollei List > > - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' > in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org > > - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with > 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into > www.freelists.org > > - Online, searchable archives are available at > //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list > > --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list --- Rollei List - Post to rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx - Subscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'subscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Unsubscribe at rollei_list-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with 'unsubscribe' in the subject field OR by logging into www.freelists.org - Online, searchable archives are available at //www.freelists.org/archives/rollei_list