[rollei_list] Re: OT Re: new Zeiss Ikon- a hollow construct?
- From: CarlosMFreaza <cmfreaza@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 13:17:50 -0300
Hi Austin:
Only because I initially commented a wish, a thought
about to buy certain camera and explained the reasons on my preference
_without any comment against Leica, I did write I liked Leica_ except
for the price in a second or third message, that wish was attacked
fiercely, in fact my original post was a light answer to Hauke to
quote two URLs on the ZI camera. Those unjust attacks provoked a
reaction and I wrote what I wrote but even for that situation I also
wrote on the deserved respect for Leica due to its position in the
photography history.
This is a Rollei list, I'm a Rollei MF shooter mainly despite I also
like some 35mm cameras (and despite I consider my P&S digital camera
was and is a very valuable tool to copy certain documents), from this
point of view I don't understand why you are comparing Rollei MF
cameras (if you were talking about them) with Leica or any other 35mm
camera, they are different formats very clearly, you could compare the
Leica with the Rollei 35 or the Rollei 35 RF, a true Bessa copy. I
replied to Frank I never used the word "superior" or "superiority" .
Carlos
2009/11/9 Austin Franklin <austin.franklin@xxxxxxxxxxx>:
> Hi Carlos,
>
> There is a huge irony here. You defend the Rollei as "hand made",
> "craftsman", "having heart", "made with same tools as blacksmith" (or
> something to that effect, precision is not important to the point). But,
> that only applies to Rolleis being somehow "superior". But, none of those
> apply to Leica? Even though they are one of the most respected cameras in
> the world...probably more so that Rollei. You dismiss them. Hum.
>
> Regards,
>
> Austin
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> [mailto:rollei_list-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mark Rabiner
>> Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 6:06 PM
>> To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: [rollei_list] Re: OT Re: new Zeiss Ikon- a hollow construct?
>>
>>
>> > That is not a valid comparison Frank since the Zeiss Ikon is at least
>> > as good as the Leica M6 and with some better features for the shooter;
>> > BTW, I know very well the Leica user or collector needs to justify the
>> > investment, and then I prefer to stop this topic here.-
>> >
>> > Carlos
>>
>>
>> A statement like that takes a high degree of obliviousness that I
>> can't even
>> approach.
>> A Leica M6 is a precision instrument make with the highest tolerances and
>> premium materials going back decades used by the more prestigious
>> photographers for decades.
>> The Cosina ZM is a here today gone tomorrow piece of junk you
>> wont be able
>> to get parts for the day after tomorrow.
>>
>> I'm not going to even refer to it as a Zeiss Ikon.
>>
>>
>> Mark William Rabiner
>>
>>
>>
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