[rollei_list] Re: Ford motor and Rolleiflex
- From: Laurence Cuffe <cuffe@xxxxxxx>
- To: rollei_list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 10:23:32 -0400
Sorry about this, I've just changed my network provider and was reconfiguring
my email, this let loose a number of emails which had been safely trapped in my
mac for the last couple of years.
All the best
Larry Cuffe
On Monday, December 11, 2006, at 01:12PM, "Laurence Cuffe" <cuffe@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
>
>On 11 Dec 2006, at 10:02, Mark Rabiner wrote:
>
>> On 12/11/06 8:47 AM, "Laurence Cuffe" <cuffe@xxxxxxx> typed:
>>
>>>
>>> On Monday, December 11, 2006, at 07:09AM, "Mark Rabiner"
>>> <mark@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>> On 12/7/06 11:07 AM, "Jim Brick" <jim@xxxxxxxxx> typed:
>>>>
>>>
>>> Sirs:
>>> As Harry Chapin put it:
>>> And she said...
>>> Flowers are red young man
>>> Green leaves are green
>>> There's no need to see flowers any other way
>>> Than they way they always have been seen
>>>
>>> All the best
>>> Larry Cuffe
>>>
>> Yes I'm all for free love and people having their own opinions and
>> a sense
>> of humor
>> But there is a certain extent in a color print where this just
>> ain't true.
>> There is such a thing in the color printing world as "a bad print".
>> And Emperor with no clothes on a chat list it seems.
>> Show that image to 100 custom color printers and all 100 custom color
>> printers will tell its way way blue. Not 99. Well ok some will say
>> three
>> ways. Some one "way". I think the average points blue they will say
>> will be
>> around 10. Some will say 20. A few may say as little as 7.
>> So much for objective vs. subjective reality in color printing
>> opinion's.
>> After you've done it awhile professedly you realize you have to
>> stop BS'ing
>> yourself and do them ALL good.
>> And Not just call the bad ones your OWN opinion.
>>
>> Peace love Woodstock
>>
>> Mark Rabiner
>>
>
>I see two issues here: 1) Tecknical competence. I find it much easier
>to look at Picaso's later work because I've seen his early work and
>know that a result which looks sloppy and crude is intentional rather
>than incompetent. So Look at this, its blue! I take with a grain of
>salt, whereas Look at this, I underexposed on purpose to saturate the
>colors, I'm more comfortable with.
>
>I didn't find the color pallete of the original images disturbing, it
>coresponded to my impresion of late afternoon sunlight with the
>subject lit predominently by skylight. I liked the corrected image
>too, but it struck me as being a bit too "kodaky" normalizing the
>image to a color range more typical of a noonday sun.
>
>2) the sensitized eye: Once you understand an effect, it often
>removes or inverts the magic of the image. Waves of purple fields of
>lavender in provence loose much of their magic once you interpret
>them as either "they used Velvia" or "They cranked up the saturation
>in photoshop".
>Knowledge can impoverish our appreciation of an image.
>
>That said, demanding that all colors be balanced and uniform in every
>image strikes me as being close to asking that every printer do their
>best to emulate a machine print :- )
>
>All the best
>
>Larry Cuffe
>
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>>
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