[raspberry-vi] Re: I see the future: How Linux will power the future of Braille, will it open it up to be more accessible if it embeds itself in our AT?
- From: Patrick Smyth <patricksmyth01@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2021 17:24:02 -0400
Yeah, that's kind of effed up, because you could be fixing one
thing while everyone else in the project is running around
breaking everything else. If a11y isn't at all a value, you can't
come in and fix things, practically speaking. There's also no
point to having a screen reader if every main app is implementing
things randomly and not thinking about a11y. Something to look
forward to in 2031, I guess.
Patrick
Devin Prater <r.d.t.prater@xxxxxxxxx> writes:
I've interacted with the PinePhone project, and they talked a
lot about the
poor state of Linux GUI accessibility and gave a good slap in
the face with
the whole "be the change you wish to see in the world" thing. I
wish, but
I've barely gotten into Python, and they're a group of highly
skilled
developers who could do tons more for accessibility than I
could. But
that's how big FOSS projects are sometimes.
Devin Prater
r.d.t.prater@xxxxxxxxx
On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 12:59 PM Rich Morin <rdm@xxxxxxxx>
wrote:
At the risk of repeating myself, I have some comments to make
on this
thread. The bottom line is that the RasPi isn't well optimized
for use as
a portable computer. Because the RasPi has no power management
hardware,
it can't support a sleep mode. So, no "instant on" capability
unless
you're willing to carry around a lot of batteries. Also, by
the time you
add a keyboard and a power bank, you're carrying around quite a
bit of
hardware. Not everyone will want to do this...
So, my focus has been on repurposing old Android cell phones.
They
already have the hardware to do a sleep mode and have a touch
screen that
can support Braille input. And, because there are billions of
them that
can't run the latest Android versions, their prices can be
remarkably low.
That said, there are a couple of gating issues. One is that
Android isn't
really Linux, so installing (say) Arch or Debian packages is a
non-starter. I'd love to hear that someone is working on this
issue, but
... crickets ...
Alternatively, there are several projects (e.g., /e/, Mobian,
pmOS) that
are working on porting Linux to Android cell phones. Problem
is, none of
them have much of an a11y focus and in any event, it's still
early days for
all of these releases. Finally, I don't know of any touch
screen input
software for Linux. I have ideas about how to write some, but
haven't had
the time to make any progress on this.
-r
On Mar 30, 2021, at 08:11, Travis Siegel
<tsiegel@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Nah, just get a pi case, slap on a battery pack, and off you
go. Nothing
to it.
Of course, the devil is in the details. Finding a raspberry
pi case you
like, hunting up a battery pack that fits your particular
usage case,
and getting it all setup to do what you want will take some
time, but
for less than $100, you can have a fully portable full-blown
linux box
in your pocket that can do just about anything you can think
of for it
to do. ...
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