I agree with Richard that Phenidone and it derivatives give "about a stop more speed than box speed". The operative word here is "about". Additional speed is dependant on the choice of developer and I would say that Xtol yields the greatest speed increase. Even so texts that I am familiar with give a speed increase closer to 2/3 stop rather than a full stop. There is a saffety factor in the box speed of another 1 stop. So with careful metering you should be able to get about 2 extra stops of speed. The advice to bracket is a good one in circumstances such as described. Jerry --- On Mon, 9/17/12, Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Richard Knoppow <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Optimum results pushing 4x5 Tri-x 320 at 800 or 1600iso?? To: pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Date: Monday, September 17, 2012, 1:01 AM ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bogdan Karasek" <BKarasek@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:06 PM Subject: [pure-silver] Optimum results pushing 4x5 Tri-x 320 at 800 or 1600iso?? > Hello, > > Needless to say, I got all sorts of contrary opinions as to how high you can > push the iso of 4x5 TX 320asa and still get satisfactory results??? And what > developer will give those results? > > They are building a new super-hospital campus with several 10-12 story > buildings, not far from here, 15 minute walk. The sides are still open and > the work lights are left on at night. Quite the spectacle. I want to catch > this on the above mentioned 4x5 sheet film, before they close up the walls. > I'm using a Toyo 4x5 CF with a 127/7.7 Ektar in a Supermatic shutter and a > monopod. Lens standard set to infinity and use the viewfinder with the #4 > mask and three loaded Grafmatics. > > Any opinions dearly welcome. > > Cheers, > Bogdan I am sure you know that "pushing" mostly just increases the contrast. If you use a developer with Phenidone or one of its cousins it will give you about a stop more speed than the box speed, which is usually based on a developer like D-76. Xtol, T-Max RS, Ilford DDX or whatever its called now, will do. The data sheets for the developers and also the film sheets will give you some guidance. -- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles WB6KBL dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ============================================================================================================= To unsubscribe from this list, go to www.freelists.org and logon to your account (the same e-mail address and password you set-up when you subscribed,) and unsubscribe from there.