[pure-silver] Re: Flying with hazard stuff in the US (?)

  • From: David Hornford <dave@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 27 Jul 2010 14:10:24 -0600

Two fundamental problems.

1) probable problems carrying any quantity of chemicals onto a commercial
passenger jet out of the US. The luggage is x-rayed and suspicious packages
examined. Quantity of powders are suspicious on several points to your
average TSA screener. Once they look at the powder and discover it is not a
cocaine haul they will get nervous about what it is. The antidote to nerves
is to deny it on the plane.

2) Argentinean customs. If you ship by post YOU are the customs broker. By
definition a customs broker knows the rules, the classification and the
forms. In the Argentinean customs manual there are 3,110 lines covering
"chemicals & photographic materials". Not surprising you get different
answers. Here in Canada it is easy, shipper fills out a simple form with a
value & I pay federal value add tax on the value. For most personal
shipments by post they completely skip the customs bit (limited return for
effort). Argentina customs likely takes a different approach and will
happily out you through a run-around to collect the fee (based on your point
and my grief with Argentina when I spent a year commuting for work in South
America)

A commercial shipper (UPS/ DHL/ FedEx) will act as your customs broker
(confirm before you use them that they will clear and deliver direct to the
recipient address). Upside, it is taken care of. Downside the customs bill
is whatever the bill is, and there will be a service fee (assume $50-$100
for the privilege). This bill will either be presented at delivery (UPS),
sent after the fact (FedEx) or collected before your item clears if the
value is high or they have any doubts about collecting (FedEx & UPS). Second
downside to a commercial shipper is they need to know what is being shipped
(they are clearing so they need to fill the forms out). As such the moment
you say 'chemicals' expect to be passed to their dangerous goods team.
Upside, you get the materials, downside you will pay more for shipping. UPS
doesn't appear to offer 'dangerous goods' to Argentina.

Dave


On 10-07-27 12:51 PM, "Pablo Kolodny" <pkolodny@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> On 7/27/10 at 3:31 PM, cuffe@xxxxxxx (Laurence Cuffe) wrote:
> 
>> I know this sounds silly, but two options not yet considered are
>> 1 the humble post office.
>> 2 When purchasing ask if the shop can send it home for you.
>> I've often found these to be very effective and convenient
>> methods for getting stuff back.
>> All the best
>> Larry
> 
> 
> Hi Larry and all other who kindly took the time to read mine and
> then write something back about the topic.
> 
> I’ll tell you something, I’m buying some few magic powders
> from Art Craft in NY.
> I’ve also got them quote shipping stuff for a small packet to
> Argentina and I found it to be relatively cheap.
> They can well ship directly to Argentina, that is not a problem.
> The point is here, Argentinean customs. This is the big problem.
> It is not only that they make you to go waste more than a couple
> of hours of your time in a crowded waiting room for the CPI
> (Centro Postal Internacional), wish it rather were the ICP in NY
> instead, so they can charge some stupidly ridiculous taxes for
> stuff that is not made in the country. Then there it is that
> I’m not sure what is allowed and what is not... I’ve called
> the Argentinean Customs more than twice and every time I call
> I’m told some different info. A crazy thing. Other than this I
> wouldn’t even bother with the topic.
> 
> Thanks again
> 
> Pablo
> 
> 
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