[pure-silver] Re: Agfa Sistan... now Selenium Protection

  • From: DarkroomMagic <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: PureSilverNew <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 01:33:54 +0200

I support Richard¹s opinion and ask the managers of this list to get
involved immediately. Whenever a member of this list is repeatetly doing
more harm than good, they should be given a fair warning but ultimately
excluded from the list, if they don¹t change their behavior.
Sometimes a warning wakes up; if not, less is more.





Regards



Ralph W. Lambrecht




 


On 2005-05-31 12:29, "Richard Knoppow" <dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ryuji Suzuki" <rs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <pure-silver@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 12:17 AM
> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Agfa Sistan... now Selenium
> Protection
> 
> 
>> From: Bill Stephenson <photographica@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: [pure-silver] Re: Agfa Sistan... now Selenium
>> Protection
>> Date: Tue, 31 May 2005 03:01:30 -0400
>> 
>>> Gee, thanks for the help. "Do it yourself", eh? That
>>> helps everyone.
>>> I'm afraid that my access to your database is somewhat
>>> limited. Can you
>>> copy and paste? I knew you could! But will you...?
>> 
>> Isn't that answer obvious?  I am not obligated to share
>> any
>> information with you or anyone else to begin with, and I
>> am not
>> obligated to repost what I shared with the list before.
>> If, at any
>> rate, you found that information useful, there are other
>> ways to ask
>> me to repost it. My practice is to add those who persist
>> in giving me
>> crap like this to my email client's ignore list. Good
>> luck.
>> 
>> --
>> Ryuji Suzuki
> 
> 
>   Ryuji, I would normally respond to this sort of thing off
> list if at all but I've just had enough of your rudeness and
> arrogance. Its time to call this behavior what it is.
>   Do you think you have no obligations here? You are dead
> wrong. This list is a social community with certain rules of
> expected behavior. Its entire purpose is to share knowledge.
> If you do not want to share your learning with others I
> suggest you leave the list. For that matter perhaps you
> should reconsider your motives for studying the sciences.
> Sharing and teaching are inherent components of science,
> without them you are something short of that.
>   You are very good at telling people that they are wrong
> and don't know what they are talking about but not very good
> at supplying information yourself. I have been a victim of
> this and so have others on this list. A statment is made
> with some reference to its source. You come back saying its
> entirely wrong. The source is given as a well known and
> accepted text, your answer is that its too old, chemistry is
> nothing like it was, everything in older books and articles
> is wrong. Well, maybe, but you don't replace that
> information with anything else. I remember asking you
> somthing once and having you mail me an artical that had no
> relevance to the subject at all. Really an attempt to snow
> me with advanced science. Shame on you. No one here is
> pretending to be what they are not. We are mostly not
> professional scientists or specialists in chemistry. We are
> mostly amateur photogeraphers with a hunger to know more
> about the process we know. You have been treating all of us
> pretty shabily. I remember your chasing away Micheal
> Gudzinowicz from this list. Micheal is a Phd chemist with
> excellent credentials; a former researcher for Bell
> Telephone Laboratories in its hay day. You treated him with
> utter contempt. On top of this Micheal was recovering from
> heart surgery at the time. Ryuji, I don't like rudeness, I
> don't like unfairness, and I don't like arrogance, you have
> consistently displayed all of those in this list. You may be
> very smart and have a very good mind but as a human being
> you leave a lot to be desired. I regret having to write this
> but I think its necessary. If you decide to leave the list I
> will regret it because I don't like to see people hurt. If
> you decide to stay please apply some of your intelligence to
> understanding what has happened. I am dead certain this
> affects other aspects of your life. Unless you are one of
> those odd souls that doesn't need other people at all it
> truly needs attention.
> 
> ---
> Richard Knoppow
> Los Angeles, CA, USA
> dickburk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
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