A streaming media can be inaccessible or with a low usability (better said) because the blind users won't be able to set the volume up or down while they are listening, they won't be able to fast forward or rewind the sound, or pause, then later jump where they left.
Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy B" <a_borka@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 2:00 AM Subject: RE: protecting streaming mp3 files with asp.net? How is protecting audio files by making people listen to them and not being able to download them an accessibility issue? If you can stay away from the flash idea then I cant see how it would be inaccessible. Inconvenient maybe, but not inaccessible. In this case, it just isn't physically possible to let people download the songs and use them at will (their will), which in lots of cases isn't the will of the author. Anyways, the wills of other people and what they try to do with streaming/downloaded media isn't the subject of the list (unless its accessibility of course). The people aren't trying to be inaccessible or be technically overkill on the law, but it is what they are asking for... -----Original Message----- From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Octavian Rasnita Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 4:34 PM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: protecting streaming mp3 files with asp.net? I think this has no copyright relations. Copyright is something enforced by law while this type of protection is a technical protection. The persons that need to use this type of protection usually care more about money than about accessibility for the blind or about usability and their first goal is to force the listeners visit their site and watch their advertising and not to make the sound as friendly and easy to listen as possible. They are not bad. They are just trying to earn money like everybody else. If a sound is protected by copyright only, and let's say that certain sound is free to listen just once then it requires payment, then that sound can be put as a simple free file anywhere on the web. If the visitors will respect the law, then they will download the file, listen it with Winamp or something else, then they would delete it if they don't want to pay. If the visitors don't respect the law, it is not nice to skip the law and make your own police, a technical police in this case, but... it works this way, so nobody cares about those who have accessibility problems. Or by the way, because I might not know too much about those web-based media players, is there such a web based media player that can allow a blind person using Jaws to fast forward or rewind, or stop, pause and restart the sound again? Octavian----- Original Message ----- From: <james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 9:17 PM Subject: RE: protecting streaming mp3 files with asp.net?
Hi, There could be a copyright issue with this. Jim James D Homme, , Usability Engineering, Highmark Inc., james.homme@xxxxxxxxxxxx, 412-544-1810 "Never doubt that a thoughtful group of committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has." -- Margaret Mead "Graham Hardy" <graham.hardy@gma il.com> To Sent by: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx programmingblind- cc bounce@freelists. org Subject RE: protecting streaming mp3 files with asp.net? 10/30/2007 03:10 PM Please respond to programmingblind@ freelists.org Hi Andy - Why would you want to do this? From a usability point of view, it isn't always pleasant to have to sit in front of a computer to listen to files; I would much prefer to listen to them on another device. Indeed, I find that I almost never make use of streams that cannot be downloaded, so it is likely to repel some of your visitors. Of course, it depends on the actual content: for instance, books must never be streamed (what if you wanted to stop halfway and then resume a few days later?), whereas music seems more workable this way, as does live content. -Graham. From: programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:programmingblind-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andy B Sent: October 30, 2007 11:07 AM To: programmingblind@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: protecting streaming mp3 files with asp.net? Hi... I have to stream mp3 files from an asp.net 2.0 website. I am trying to figure out how you can let any visiter to the site play them but not download them. Most of the examples out there show how in flash, but is there another way? __________ View the list's information and change your settings at //www.freelists.org/list/programmingblind
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